Hey everyone! I'll be finishing my Phoenix team very soon and planning to go for Empire next. I have a few questions: Profile link: https://swgoh.gg/p/223198524/ - Is Plap, Vader, Thrawn, Tarking + TIE FIghter pilot competitive team or should I replace Tarkin and Tie fighter? I see a lot of teams with Bastilla and Dooku (+ palp, vader and thrawn). - Where can I see "meta" teams (F2P) to stay competitive? I've searched some videos on youtube (Ahnald, for example) but he only mentions leaders but not full teams. I wanted to start farming Geo team right after- When should I transition from Phoenix to Empire? I assume when I complete thrawn/palp to 7 stars? - Whom should I farm in the guild store? There is nothing for Phoenix/Empire- How to get vader to 7 stars? Wll his shards be avaialble anywhere else except 2-3 shards per completed quest? Thanks in advance!

I strongly recommend you go for fallen Bastilla shan to put in your Vader and ep team

"Vendi1983;c-2158137" wrote:Don't buy anyone in the Guild Store that you can get elsewhere. Only buy gear or store-specific characters. It's a waste of currency otherwise, especially considering the higher price.Off the top of my head (and ranked in terms of usefulness):LograyFO SF TIE Pilot (needed for SLKR)Dengar (excellent for Chewie event but not needed if you have Bossk)Colonel StarckJyn ErsoFO SF TIE FighterYoung Hanthis is terrible advice for a new player.don't buy all these characters. just the ewok (and dengar, maybe). a long ways down the road you can think about FO.

"trustme707;c-2158152" wrote:Thank you! Why is everyone recommending ewoks? For C3PO? I might not get the point but is he that OP? Also, I understand that buying gear in GS is not a waste? yes for 3po. he's a big piece for multiple teams, and Logray/wicket/paploo/elder and chirpa are the best ewoks to get him, and the best ewoks overall. Since logray (iirc) is only available there you don't want to spend on gear there, just on toons you can't farm elsewhere. same for dengar, who helps a lot with chewie bc he stops r2's stealth. the newer BH might work too, they weren't around when I got chewieedit: if you are focusing on geos, for ex, you want to just work on them and just buy logray/dengar when they are there. the main thing is to focus on what you are working on now. It's just that if you get to the point where you want 3po/chewie, it's very hard to just wait and hope the chars show up in the store

@trustme707 Personally, I would keep focusing on Phoenix at least until you have Thrawn and Pal at 7*. Yes there are better arena teams but at your level in the game, this is a solid path. Use your crystals for energy refreshes for either extra character shard farming or gear farming. If you do decent in arena, you'll have enough for Kanan, and relaistically, he takes precidence over Tarkin since you can't get thrawn to 7* until you have Kanan 7* and without a good thrawn, the empire team will suffer. As soon as Kanan is done, go after Tarkin. Your goal is not just to get certain characters but get those characters and their supporting cast at about the same time. Phoenix is not the worst investment where you're at in the game. They make Galactic War super easy. They're good for GAC where you're at. They'll do fine in the arena climb. They have decent ships. They're not end game but they're a great stepping stone.

Forgot to add about the guild store. I would say it depends. You can start on some good teams there. So it depends on what you want and where you're lacking which is everything because you recently started. Dengar is a decent choice. Reason being is he's a scoundrel and that will help with getting more credits as you'll need a team of scoundrels for that. Another easy pic for that is Cad Bane from the GW store. Finish Zeb first then I'd say go after Cad. I can't remember if you need a full team of 5, but more is always better. Again, full teams are the goal. Get Boba out of the Cantina store, he'll be your lead and is a good character for a while. Again farm him after chopper. If you do Greedo and IG-88 after Tarkin, you have a full team. This will also help you towards Chewie but that can come later. If you're not liking that option, between the cantina stores and the guild store you can get a full clone team set up which is good. A few even have ships which is a bonus. If you're not liking that option, you could do Geos/Sepratists. Poggle, Nute, Asaaj, Sun Fac, B2, IG-100, Geo soldier, geo spy and Grievous are are in the stores so you could throw a team together based on which stores you'd rather pull from and what team you'd like to create. No matter what you do though, pick a path and stick with it. Set a goal of getting a specific team together and follow through. If you waiver between different teams you'll suffer and and the game becomes less fun then. Knowing when to switch over is good too though. If you start seeing another team regularly in arena, fleet arena, GAC or TW and you haven't started on that team, ask yourself what your plan is in that game mode. I'm starting to suffer in both my arena's because I took too long to move on to the next step in both and now I'm behind.

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trustme707
5 years ago
"khdelboy;c-2158586" wrote:
I agree. The seps are a good faction for a starter player. Good Geos ships, can get Padme, plus Geos is an annoying team to place on defence in GAC or TW.

I presume you’re in a guild that are doing all three raids, as all the toons you get as rewards from are very good.

I think Geos can also get me VAT, but do I need him really? ) Haven't seen him in any squad
Sanderzas
5 years ago
"Vendi1983;c-2158137" wrote:
Don't buy anyone in the Guild Store that you can get elsewhere. Only buy gear or store-specific characters. It's a waste of currency otherwise, especially considering the higher price.

Off the top of my head (and ranked in terms of usefulness):
Logray
FO SF TIE Pilot (needed for SLKR)
Dengar (excellent for Chewie event but not needed if you have Bossk)
Colonel Starck
Jyn Erso
FO SF TIE Fighter
Young Han

I also farm some characters in guild store that I can get in cantina, because there is so much to far in cantina as newer player
khdelboy78
5 years ago
"trustme707;c-2158597" wrote:
"khdelboy;c-2158586" wrote:
I agree. The seps are a good faction for a starter player. Good Geos ships, can get Padme, plus Geos is an annoying team to place on defence in GAC or TW.

I presume you’re in a guild that are doing all three raids, as all the toons you get as rewards from are very good.

I think Geos can also get me VAT, but do I need him really? ) Haven't seen him in any squad

He does appears in my GAC/Squad Arena.

He doesn’t seem to look much but I’ve seen videos with him helping Vader to one shot GL Rey. A lot of end game players love him.

You would need to bring them the Geos up to gear XII to have a better chance of beating the battle in TB DS Geos.
trustme707
5 years ago
Thanks everyone!
AM2Rainman
5 years ago
"trustme707;c-2158596" wrote:
"AM2Rainman;c-2158573" wrote:
@trustme707 Personally, I would keep focusing on Phoenix at least until you have Thrawn and Pal at 7*. Yes there are better arena teams but at your level in the game, this is a solid path. Use your crystals for energy refreshes for either extra character shard farming or gear farming. If you do decent in arena, you'll have enough for Kanan, and relaistically, he takes precidence over Tarkin since you can't get thrawn to 7* until you have Kanan 7* and without a good thrawn, the empire team will suffer. As soon as Kanan is done, go after Tarkin. Your goal is not just to get certain characters but get those characters and their supporting cast at about the same time. Phoenix is not the worst investment where you're at in the game. They make Galactic War super easy. They're good for GAC where you're at. They'll do fine in the arena climb. They have decent ships. They're not end game but they're a great stepping stone.

Wow that's massive - thanks! When you say doing good in the arena - which place should it be? I'm balancing somewhere around 350-450 rank all the time and just can't push further to top 200 so I get 500 currency for Kanan + 200 for daily quest.

Honestly, that's where' I've been most of the time and I say I'm doing decently. Of course, getting closer to the top is better. I've more focused on a spread of characters than pushing my arena team though so pushing past 200 hasn't been a priority. That being said I was in the 100-200 range for a while which was nice but I wasn't dropping too much prior to payout so it wasn't painful to get back to it. The reason for pushing to better in arena is not for the SA currency although it is nice to have, it's for the crystals. This is more for long term but crystals get you eng and node refreshes as well as can help you purchase gear you need to gear up your characters quicker from shipments. I use all my crystals for eng refreshes as I see that as the best investment for me based on where I'm at in the game and how much I want to commit to the game. But, you like me get 60 crystals a day from arena whereas the no. 1 spot takes 500. I mean, ya 900 vs 500 SA tokens is nice and will basically double how quick you can get Kanan and the others but the main thing is the crystals and unless you're pushing into the very top, is it worth that much extra effort? You have to decide that for yourself. I'd love to be top 100. I did it once, but the climb and what not isn't my thing and never has been. I'd love the extra crystals but it's not realistic for how I play. I've included a table of payouts for reference. I never added the credits as I wasn't that worried about it ever, by comparison.
DarkHelmet1138
5 years ago
"trustme707;c-2158504" wrote:
"DarkHelmet1138;c-2158366" wrote:
On my alt account, I switched to empire from Phoenix as soon as I had ep and thrawn unlocked and geared to about gear 7 or so. And some still at g6. My Phoenix wasn't much higher since 5 star can be done with g6 or so.

St that point, I didn't have dark Bastilla farmable so I went with tfp and tarkin since they are good for ships early anyway. I'm going to switch dark Bastilla in shortly once her gear is high enough that she doesn't die instantly.

Vader is also periodically in the fleet store.

I disagree with some of the above posts about the guild store. Early on, you will be still farming here and ezra from cantina so in addition to gear and exclusive ewoks and danger, I also recommend picking up farm boy Luke or old Ben shards when you see them.

They are easy cantina farms but early game, your cantina nodes are busy finishing Phoenix to get thrawn and palp. And if you get in a guild doing good raids you get a lot of currency. Getting farm boy Luke and old ben from the guild store sets you up for cls much sooner than if you wait to farm them from cantina. And there are plenty of other cantina farms that you can move on to if you already have the cls req. (Mission, t3, geo brood alpha, vets just to name a few)

Waiting to farm old ben and luke from cantina nodes forces you to put off either cls or jkr. I prefer to get both of those fairly quickly.

Thank you! But if you stop farming Phoenix at 5* then you can't get Plap and Thrawn furhter?

I'm still farming them. Just not using them in arena. Just got here to 7 stars yesterday.
Shadowscream77
New Spectator
5 years ago
Vader lead is one of the strongest teams at endgame....
So building a Palp lead team is a very solid team!

Step 1
EP, Vader, Thrawn, TFP, Tarkin —> Tarkin, TFP and Vader will all help with fleet.
Step 2
Farm Bastila Shan (Fallen) —> BSF, she boosts any Sith lead significantly
Step 3 (optional)
Farm Shoretrooper when you unlock the node. Not essential, but at endgame Relic Shoretrooper with defence mods is nigh on unkillable and a core part of the Vader lead team.
Step 4 (Not optional)
Get in a guild that’s doing HSTR so you can pick up Traya shards.....

zzzVader, Traya, Thrawn, BSF and Shoretrooper is obviously a long way off (3 zetas on Vader....) but that’s a team that can kill GL Rey....
Well before then EP lead with one zeta (his leadership) will keep you competitive.

p.s. From Guild Store there’s only 3 characters to consider farming

Starck - if your guild is doing Hoth TB.....
Dengar - Makes BHs much better and really helps unlock Legendary Chewie
Logray - makes unlocking C3PO much less painful

Don’t do the rest.....
Shadowscream77
New Spectator
5 years ago
Jyn is an honourable mention “4th character worth farming” from guild store
—> If your guild is focusing heavily on LS Hoth
—> Rogue 1 will no longer be trash once Mon Mothma is farmable
—> Jyn is a Pilot.....
trustme707
5 years ago
"DarkHelmet1138;c-2159713" wrote:
"trustme707;c-2158504" wrote:
"DarkHelmet1138;c-2158366" wrote:
On my alt account, I switched to empire from Phoenix as soon as I had ep and thrawn unlocked and geared to about gear 7 or so. And some still at g6. My Phoenix wasn't much higher since 5 star can be done with g6 or so.

St that point, I didn't have dark Bastilla farmable so I went with tfp and tarkin since they are good for ships early anyway. I'm going to switch dark Bastilla in shortly once her gear is high enough that she doesn't die instantly.

Vader is also periodically in the fleet store.

I disagree with some of the above posts about the guild store. Early on, you will be still farming here and ezra from cantina so in addition to gear and exclusive ewoks and danger, I also recommend picking up farm boy Luke or old Ben shards when you see them.

They are easy cantina farms but early game, your cantina nodes are busy finishing Phoenix to get thrawn and palp. And if you get in a guild doing good raids you get a lot of currency. Getting farm boy Luke and old ben from the guild store sets you up for cls much sooner than if you wait to farm them from cantina. And there are plenty of other cantina farms that you can move on to if you already have the cls req. (Mission, t3, geo brood alpha, vets just to name a few)

Waiting to farm old ben and luke from cantina nodes forces you to put off either cls or jkr. I prefer to get both of those fairly quickly.

Thank you! But if you stop farming Phoenix at 5* then you can't get Plap and Thrawn furhter?

I'm still farming them. Just not using them in arena. Just got here to 7 stars yesterday.

What gear lvl is enough for Phoenix squad to beat Thrawn? Also, at which level it is possible? 80+ or 75+ may be?
trustme707
5 years ago
"Shadowscream;c-2159781" wrote:
Vader lead is one of the strongest teams at endgame....
So building a Palp lead team is a very solid team!

Step 1
EP, Vader, Thrawn, TFP, Tarkin —> Tarkin, TFP and Vader will all help with fleet.
Step 2
Farm Bastila Shan (Fallen) —> BSF, she boosts any Sith lead significantly
Step 3 (optional)
Farm Shoretrooper when you unlock the node. Not essential, but at endgame Relic Shoretrooper with defence mods is nigh on unkillable and a core part of the Vader lead team.
Step 4 (Not optional)
Get in a guild that’s doing HSTR so you can pick up Traya shards.....

zzzVader, Traya, Thrawn, BSF and Shoretrooper is obviously a long way off (3 zetas on Vader....) but that’s a team that can kill GL Rey....
Well before then EP lead with one zeta (his leadership) will keep you competitive.

p.s. From Guild Store there’s only 3 characters to consider farming

Starck - if your guild is doing Hoth TB.....
Dengar - Makes BHs much better and really helps unlock Legendary Chewie
Logray - makes unlocking C3PO much less painful

Don’t do the rest.....

I'm at lvl 60 now and I already see opponents with 5* or even 6* Vader. How is it possible? How do you 7 start Vader actually? Just by completing the quests?

Also, Bastilla is 5 attemps per day farm, right? So it's a loooong way