I got curious last night and started asking around for people to spread Plague with Cassian. While only one copy of Plague would be copied (like a Damage over Time effect), no Plague was copied at all. I have spent today trying to figure out why with no clear answer. Opening up a thread on Reddit (See https://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/78552x/plague_and_cassian/) led to answers that I had already thought through.So..how does Plague work? Even though it is a "locked debuff", that should only affect its ability to be dispelled/cleansed. Every other locked status effect in the game (Armor Shred, Fracture, Call to Action, Backup Plan, and Bounty Hunter's Resolve) either has yellow text identifying it as a "Unique Effect" which makes it unable to be copied by Grand Master Yoda, or a specific wording in the description (Fracture) that states it cannot be copied (Armor Shred isn't a debuff and is therefore excluded from being able to be copied in any way). Plague lacks all of this. It simply seems to exist as a debuff with a locked icon, which would make it able to be copied in theory- but doesn't. Ideally posting here can get me some clearer answers, and feel free to add opinions or thoughts on it of your own!

I think it just isn't in the list of stuff he copies https://swgoh.gg/characters/cassian-andor/ability/crippling-shot

"Allenb60;c-1322394" wrote:I think it just isn't in the list of stuff he copies https://swgoh.gg/characters/cassian-andor/ability/crippling-shotHm, that’s a possibility. If that’s the case, should it? I think it comes down to whether it should be a “Unique Effect” or not.

"Aronael;c-1322398" wrote:"Allenb60;c-1322394" wrote:I think it just isn't in the list of stuff he copies https://swgoh.gg/characters/cassian-andor/ability/crippling-shotHm, that’s a possibility. If that’s the case, should it? I think it comes down to whether it should be a “Unique Effect” or not.I would expect that a debuff that only a single character can inflict (or others through her lead) would qualify as unique.

"Aronael;c-1322398" wrote:"Allenb60;c-1322394" wrote:I think it just isn't in the list of stuff he copies https://swgoh.gg/characters/cassian-andor/ability/crippling-shotHm, that’s a possibility. If that’s the case, should it? I think it comes down to whether it should be a “Unique Effect” or not.I would say Cassian should be able to copy it unless it says "this debuff can't be copied", like Thrawn's fracture ability text, but I'm betting the interaction just wasn't considered or it can't last one turn like the other debuffs he inflicts with crippling shot

"Bulldog1205;c-1322402" wrote:I would expect that a debuff that only a single character can inflict (or others through her lead) would qualify as unique.Burning, for example, is unique but not a “Unique Effect”. So that doesn’t necessarily apply here.

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Allenb60
8 years ago
I think it just isn't in the list of stuff he copies https://swgoh.gg/characters/cassian-andor/ability/crippling-shot
Lyrek826
8 years ago
"Allenb60;c-1322394" wrote:
I think it just isn't in the list of stuff he copies https://swgoh.gg/characters/cassian-andor/ability/crippling-shot

Hm, that’s a possibility. If that’s the case, should it? I think it comes down to whether it should be a “Unique Effect” or not.
BTTripleZero
8 years ago
"Aronael;c-1322398" wrote:
"Allenb60;c-1322394" wrote:
I think it just isn't in the list of stuff he copies https://swgoh.gg/characters/cassian-andor/ability/crippling-shot

Hm, that’s a possibility. If that’s the case, should it? I think it comes down to whether it should be a “Unique Effect” or not.

I would expect that a debuff that only a single character can inflict (or others through her lead) would qualify as unique.
Allenb60
8 years ago
"Aronael;c-1322398" wrote:
"Allenb60;c-1322394" wrote:
I think it just isn't in the list of stuff he copies https://swgoh.gg/characters/cassian-andor/ability/crippling-shot

Hm, that’s a possibility. If that’s the case, should it? I think it comes down to whether it should be a “Unique Effect” or not.

I would say Cassian should be able to copy it unless it says "this debuff can't be copied", like Thrawn's fracture ability text, but I'm betting the interaction just wasn't considered or it can't last one turn like the other debuffs he inflicts with crippling shot
Lyrek826
8 years ago
"Bulldog1205;c-1322402" wrote:

I would expect that a debuff that only a single character can inflict (or others through her lead) would qualify as unique.

Burning, for example, is unique but not a “Unique Effect”. So that doesn’t necessarily apply here.
Lyrek826
8 years ago
"Allenb60;c-1322403" wrote:
I would say Cassian should be able to copy it unless it says "this debuff can't be copied", like Thrawn's fracture ability text, but I'm betting the interaction just wasn't considered or it can't last one turn like the other debuffs he inflicts with crippling shot

I’d like for this to be it, and maybe corrected if so. If a DoT can be reduced to one turn I’d imagine Plague could as well.
BTTripleZero
8 years ago
"Aronael;c-1322426" wrote:
"Bulldog1205;c-1322402" wrote:

I would expect that a debuff that only a single character can inflict (or others through her lead) would qualify as unique.

Burning, for example, is unique but not a “Unique Effect”. So that doesn’t necessarily apply here.

I didn’t realize burning wasn’t considered unique. I would have guessed it was. I wonder if the plan is for plague to be specific to Talzin, but they have plans for more characters to be able to apply burning.
Lyrek826
8 years ago
"Bulldog1205;c-1322429" wrote:

I didn’t realize burning wasn’t considered unique. I would have guessed it was. I wonder if the plan is for plague to be specific to Talzin, but they have plans for more characters to be able to apply burning.

That’s kind of where I’m going. Status effects can be unique without being “Unique”, and Plague fits that bill. Except it can’t be spread like any other debuff in the game.
almightywood
8 years ago
From reading the conversation I'd say it's the whole "1 turn" thing that's the problem.

There is no turn limit on plague, it lasts until its specific criteria are met. To put a turn limit on the ability would mean to completely rewrite how it works. Sounds like a big pain to me, and an unnecessary one to boot.
scuba75
Rising Traveler
8 years ago
"Woodroward;c-1322466" wrote:
From reading the conversation I'd say it's the whole "1 turn" thing that's the problem.

There is no turn limit on plague, it lasts until its specific criteria are met. To put a turn limit on the ability would mean to completely rewrite how it works. Sounds like a big pain to me, and an unnecessary one to boot.

There is a 3 turn limit on plague. Read her abilities. The only one that doesn't state a turn limit is her lead which is still a 3 turn.
Plague goes away at 3x full turn complete or healed to full health or death
You can also see it expire in battle.