"Nikoms565;c-1972446" wrote:
"SoonerJBD;c-1972435" wrote:
"Nikoms565;c-1972424" wrote:
"SoonerJBD;c-1972399" wrote:
Honestly, you are only still arguing because you don’t want to admit you are wrong. There is no legitimate case to make that we should be seeing squads with three G11 toons in the Top 10 of arena.
Three quick points :
1) Rock, paper, scissors. Sorry your shiny scissors cost more than the GG-R7 rock.
2) Just because you're the only one still talking doesn't mean everyone (ir anyone, for that matter) agrees with you. It could just indicate that people are tired of arguing with you because you're convinced you're right.
3) Metas change. Money/investment gives you a short term advantage. That time is up.
1) I have the rock and paper too, and they are also better geared and modded.
2) I never said anyone agreed with me. But I will point out that I’ve still not seen anyone actually argue against my original point, which I’ve had to repeat ad nauseam because people like you keep trying to replace it with straw men like “scissors mad that it gets beat by rock.” Squads with three G11 toons don’t belong at the top of arena. Still waiting for someone to argue it is good or healthy for the game or whatever. People have argued diversity is good (I agree, but that’s not my point), that the GG team doesn’t work with G11 (false, only GG and T3 need G12 or 13) and a variety of other things that are entirely beside the point of my original post.
3) It gives you an advantage for the long term, not just the short term. I can move my mods to whatever the new meta happens to be. And I’m more prepared to acquire the new meta first time around because I gear my toons. Which is why you generally see the same people in the top 10 month after month.
Point 1 - the fact that you have them is irrelevant. Nothing holds on defense. Never has. That's by design.
People have argued point 2 - you just seem to think you get to decide what teams (and at what gear/mod levels) "belong" at the top of arena. Malak was at the top when he was 5 stars and indergeared too....but you probably had him, so weren't complaining. Sorry, you're not the sole arbiter of who "belongs" at the top of arena or for how long. Incidentally, look at the top of your fleet shard. I'm guessing you'll see many 5 star Negotiators - possibly with under-starred Ani along side.
On point 3, you are simply mistaken. I've been playing since launch. Money has always only bought a temporary advantage. I'm not sure when you started playing, but you joined the forums 2 years after me, so the fact that you're newer explains why you don't fully understand that yet.
1) Nothing holds on defense? I went over a month without falling out of the Top 10 with my DR squad. I’d guess that during the three months before relics, I fell into the mid teens two or three times. I still haven’t fallen out of the Top 20 since Malak was released. Maybe some things do hold on defense for a while.
2) What we have here is a math problem. One toon G11 is not the issue. Three or more G11 toons is the issue. People with G11 Malaks had G12 on every other toon, plus they had competitive mods on all their toons. Again, please explain to me how it’s good for the game or the competitive balance to have a squad with three G11 toons with leftover mods capable of hitting top spots in arena against G13 full relic meta squads.
3) I’ve been playing since a little after launch. I didn’t join the forums until later. I’ve averaged first in arena for over three years now. I’ve done so primarily because I religiously farmed speed mods. Gearing any particular meta will only ever give you a temporary advantage. But proper resource management and smart farming strategies for toons, gear and mods absolutely gives you a long term advantage. When the next meta comes around, I will get it quickly and will move my best mods over and stay at the top of arena. So will the other good players in the shard. I’m not going to speculate as to why you don’t understand that.
