Please teach me to understand swgoh math

"Damodamo;c-2189226" wrote:
I’m not sure which one goes first, so not sure what stat/ability applies first. But r2 shares, chewpio shares from the leader. I’d imagine they all share based on the initial value and one doesn’t stack onto the other so if r2 gives 100, it’s +100 to base numbers, whatever chewpio shares is from the base numbers not what stacks after r2 gives his stuff out.

Just like assists, unique order is based on placement. Same team/mods, different placement, different character getting guard

"Samurhaj;c-2189229" wrote:


Yeah thats why the post says someone competent.

Oh I’m sorry, I was under the impression you didn’t know yourself. As to whether I’m competent or not, this is me
https://swgoh.gg/p/897311786/
I think I count as competent.

@Samurhaj ..maybe drop the kitten attitude when your asking for help.

"Kyno;c-2189257" wrote:
I'm not sure if the above is true, but the order doesnt matter. As far as I know, no skills are calculated off anything but the base stats

Base stats are your characters stats with mods included.

Total stat at the beginning of a battle = base stat + (base stat × unique) + (base stat × leader ability) + ...... ext.

I’ve looked at this as well and it does definitely work the way the images show, at least in this case with chewpio.

"Kyno;c-2189257" wrote:
I'm not sure if the above is true, but the order doesnt matter. As far as I know, no skills are calculated off anything but the base stats

Base stats are your characters stats with mods included.

Total stat at the beginning of a battle = base stat + (base stat × unique) + (base stat × leader ability) + ...... ext.

The order absolutely does matter. It changes who gets guard as MikKro's screenshots demonstrate which means that it changes how the health and protection bonuses are applied. I have watched a streamer do it and tested it for myself.

"Rath_Tarr;c-2189306" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2189257" wrote:
I'm not sure if the above is true, but the order doesnt matter. As far as I know, no skills are calculated off anything but the base stats

Base stats are your characters stats with mods included.

Total stat at the beginning of a battle = base stat + (base stat × unique) + (base stat × leader ability) + ...... ext.

The order absolutely does matter. It changes who gets guard as MikKro's screenshots demonstrate which means that it changes how the health and protection bonuses are applied. I have watched a streamer do it and tested it for myself.

I remember there used to be a bug with Fivrs where his unique wouldn't work unless he was in the last slot, or something along those lines. I wonder if something similar is happening with 3PAC. Otherwise slot order for offense boosts and such SHOULDN'T matter.

Note: I did not read all the comments, so this may have been said already.
Here is what was found with some testing we did.
R2 number crunch goes first, so leader will have boosted stats from number crunch, than chewpio will use those boosted stats.

This is independent of what order they are in (R2 could be 2nd or last)

R2 number crunch seems the only one to work like this and always seems to go first, so can boost stats before other uniques boost stats.

Does not happen with leader abilities uniques only.

In your example
CLS would get base stats boosted from R2 number crunch
Chewpio would then use those stats for his boosting

"Kyno;c-2189320" wrote:

"Samurhaj;c-2189263" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2189257" wrote:
I'm not sure if the above is true, but the order doesnt matter. As far as I know, no skills are calculated off anything but the base stats

Base stats are your characters stats with mods included.

Total stat at the beginning of a battle = base stat + (base stat × unique) + (base stat × leader ability) + ...... ext.

"Mephisto_style;c-2189260" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2189257" wrote:
I'm not sure if the above is true, but the order doesnt matter. As far as I know, no skills are calculated off anything but the base stats

Base stats are your characters stats with mods included.

Total stat at the beginning of a battle = base stat + (base stat × unique) + (base stat × leader ability) + ...... ext.

I believe in another thread someone tried to show some evidence of this over the past 6 weeks. I didn't walk away convinced.

Well if the screenshoty are not edited then turn order must matter. Why there is no official statement for such important things?

I just meant the order towards stat calculations shouldn't matter.

Yes position in team position matters in things like mass attack/assists.

Animation speed matters more than position in mass attacks.
Example:
It doesn't matter where you place R2, he will most likely be the last to land his attack in a mass attack call.

"Kyno;c-2189320" wrote:

"Samurhaj;c-2189263" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2189257" wrote:
I'm not sure if the above is true, but the order doesnt matter. As far as I know, no skills are calculated off anything but the base stats

Base stats are your characters stats with mods included.

Total stat at the beginning of a battle = base stat + (base stat × unique) + (base stat × leader ability) + ...... ext.

"Mephisto_style;c-2189260" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2189257" wrote:
I'm not sure if the above is true, but the order doesnt matter. As far as I know, no skills are calculated off anything but the base stats

Base stats are your characters stats with mods included.

Total stat at the beginning of a battle = base stat + (base stat × unique) + (base stat × leader ability) + ...... ext.

I believe in another thread someone tried to show some evidence of this over the past 6 weeks. I didn't walk away convinced.

Well if the screenshoty are not edited then turn order must matter. Why there is no official statement for such important things?

I just meant the order towards stat calculations shouldn't matter.

Yes position in team position matters in things like mass attack/assists.

It processes the uniques in squad slot order too.

"Rath_Tarr;c-2189326" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2189320" wrote:

"Samurhaj;c-2189263" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2189257" wrote:
I'm not sure if the above is true, but the order doesnt matter. As far as I know, no skills are calculated off anything but the base stats

Base stats are your characters stats with mods included.

Total stat at the beginning of a battle = base stat + (base stat × unique) + (base stat × leader ability) + ...... ext.

"Mephisto_style;c-2189260" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2189257" wrote:
I'm not sure if the above is true, but the order doesnt matter. As far as I know, no skills are calculated off anything but the base stats

Base stats are your characters stats with mods included.

Total stat at the beginning of a battle = base stat + (base stat × unique) + (base stat × leader ability) + ...... ext.

I believe in another thread someone tried to show some evidence of this over the past 6 weeks. I didn't walk away convinced.

Well if the screenshoty are not edited then turn order must matter. Why there is no official statement for such important things?

I just meant the order towards stat calculations shouldn't matter.

Yes position in team position matters in things like mass attack/assists.

It processes the uniques in squad slot order too.

Except R2. His always seems to go first.

I made a short video to show that guard does indeed move based on order. Chewpio’s health/prot is just under 28k and hera’s is just over 32k so if it didn’t matter, chewpio would always get guard but you see that it moves from chewpio to Hera.

https://youtu.be/DAtjAF8L6Tw