It seems to me that the primary value of SEE is to counter JML. I'm now encountering R8 JML teams in arena and from the teams I've tried to far, JML appears invulnerable to the GL that's supposed to counter him. I can put a whole team of Vader and the Sith trio against him on auto for 4 minutes for example and no meaningful damage is done.At the moment, the 6+ month investment in SEE feels wasted, so I'm very much hoping someone can share with me a suggestion that helps me understand otherwise.

"Kyno;c-2232140" wrote:1 - bring in Han2 - stun Wat3 -????4 - profitSome teams just need a little change to counter a squad built to counter your squad.Also, no single situation that a team cannot win that makes them worthless, there is more to this game than a single team in a single game mode. Thanks very much. Much appreciated. While in principle I agree with your final statement, a GL toon that requires (for me anyways) 6 months of concentrated focus, where the primary value is to counter a specific other GL toon... that's IMO more than "a single team in a single game mode". A GL not being able to beat the GL they counter would decrease that GLs value well below the investment required to acquire them... but as you have highlighted there are solutions. That's all I hoped for, and so long as that's the case, the clear 4-step profit plan is enticing. Thanks!

"RandomSithLord;c-2232141" wrote:R7 JML could already cause that problem. Send in SLKR full FO, preferably modHux for some extra potency and hit auto. If SEE is your only GL, mod him for max. possible offense, use Han to stun Wat and you should still be good to go.From all my previous failed attempts to beat JML with my Kylo, I'd not have thought to try that. I'm really surprised that's an option, and appreciate the suggestion!

Seep can beat every gl in the game.Seep+wat (shield generator on seep) beats every rey I've faced.Seep+armorer+Malak+Thrawn+Han beats every slkr I've faced.Basti lead jml is easy to beat with slkr, even vs 220k hp jml. Full fo usually works, but as others said, slkr+wat and shield generator on Slkr is easy mode.There is no meta

So you only need SEE + Wat to beat that team. Wat to put shield tech on SEE then stall for about 4 minutes to let SEE build up mastery. When there is about 1 minute left in the match have SEE go into his ult and he'll have so much offense gain from mastery buildup that he'll get through JML protection up

"ndwilson;c-2265344" wrote:So you only need SEE + Wat to beat that team. Wat to put shield tech on SEE then stall for about 4 minutes to let SEE build up mastery. When there is about 1 minute left in the match have SEE go into his ult and he'll have so much offense gain from mastery buildup that he'll get through JML protection upThis!!People just don't spend time learning their hard earned GL kits... Took my one loss to go re-read the kit and realize I can't go Gucci ASAP. Just stall at least 3 minutes and profit!

R8 JML under Bastila lead makes Sith Eternal Emperor worthless?

DHammond1973
4 years ago
"Kyno;c-2232140" wrote:
1 - bring in Han
2 - stun Wat
3 -????
4 - profit

Some teams just need a little change to counter a squad built to counter your squad.

Also, no single situation that a team cannot win that makes them worthless, there is more to this game than a single team in a single game mode.

Thanks very much. Much appreciated. While in principle I agree with your final statement, a GL toon that requires (for me anyways) 6 months of concentrated focus, where the primary value is to counter a specific other GL toon... that's IMO more than "a single team in a single game mode". A GL not being able to beat the GL they counter would decrease that GLs value well below the investment required to acquire them... but as you have highlighted there are solutions. That's all I hoped for, and so long as that's the case, the clear 4-step profit plan is enticing. Thanks!
DHammond1973
4 years ago
"RandomSithLord;c-2232141" wrote:
R7 JML could already cause that problem. Send in SLKR full FO, preferably modHux for some extra potency and hit auto.

If SEE is your only GL, mod him for max. possible offense, use Han to stun Wat and you should still be good to go.

From all my previous failed attempts to beat JML with my Kylo, I'd not have thought to try that. I'm really surprised that's an option, and appreciate the suggestion!
thedrjojo
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
Seep can beat every gl in the game.

Seep+wat (shield generator on seep) beats every rey I've faced.
Seep+armorer+Malak+Thrawn+Han beats every slkr I've faced.

Basti lead jml is easy to beat with slkr, even vs 220k hp jml. Full fo usually works, but as others said, slkr+wat and shield generator on Slkr is easy mode.

There is no meta
dpw622
4 years ago
So you only need SEE + Wat to beat that team. Wat to put shield tech on SEE then stall for about 4 minutes to let SEE build up mastery. When there is about 1 minute left in the match have SEE go into his ult and he'll have so much offense gain from mastery buildup that he'll get through JML protection up
zeratul021
New Spectator
4 years ago
"ndwilson;c-2265344" wrote:
So you only need SEE + Wat to beat that team. Wat to put shield tech on SEE then stall for about 4 minutes to let SEE build up mastery. When there is about 1 minute left in the match have SEE go into his ult and he'll have so much offense gain from mastery buildup that he'll get through JML protection up

This!!

People just don't spend time learning their hard earned GL kits... Took my one loss to go re-read the kit and realize I can't go Gucci ASAP. Just stall at least 3 minutes and profit!
NyKynoe
4 years ago
1 - bring in Han
2 - stun Wat
3 -????
4 - profit

Some teams just need a little change to counter a squad built to counter your squad.

Also, no single situation that a team cannot win that makes them worthless, there is more to this game than a single team in a single game mode.
RSithLord
4 years ago
R7 JML could already cause that problem. Send in SLKR full FO, preferably mod Hux for some extra tenacity (not potency, my bad) and hit auto.

If SEE is your only GL, mod him for max. possible offense, use Han to stun Wat and you should still be good to go.
MetaSly
4 years ago
"CapD;c-2232145" wrote:
"RandomSithLord;c-2232141" wrote:
R7 JML could already cause that problem. Send in SLKR full FO, preferably modHux for some extra potency and hit auto.

If SEE is your only GL, mod him for max. possible offense, use Han to stun Wat and you should still be good to go.

From all my previous failed attempts to beat JML with my Kylo, I'd not have thought to try that. I'm really surprised that's an option, and appreciate the suggestion!

If you have Wat and the ability block from JML is preventing you from building drain stacks thenuse the tank tech on Kylo to benefit from the auto-cleanse each turn
Ginomagia1
4 years ago
What if Basti lead JML + WAT bring in legendary chewbacca? This way you can't stun it with Han, what to do then???
maslyna882
4 years ago
"BonScott_23;c-2233617" wrote:
What if Basti lead JML + WAT bring in legendary chewbacca? This way you can't stun it with Han, what to do then???

SLKR, Badsti, wat, drevan, han/malak/kru. Tank tech on slkr and power through.