Spent the past bunch of months building a droid team: HK (L), IG-88, T3, L3, and IPD. Then I found out: we're getting new droids! But they're all Separatists. I was working on the wrong droids.It's ok. I march to my own drum. I ignored the Separatists and finished my droid team, putting zetas on 88, L3, and T3. I felt great when I heard HK was getting a re-work... finally! I might have a decent leader for my droids!And now we hear that his leadership is getting nerfed? Ok, who's supposed to run my droid team now? This is really unfair to anyone who was trying to build a non-Separatist droid team. HK has been the only reasonable leader for droids since the dawn of time. If not him, who? Not Grievous. Are we getting a super-awesome Lobot rework or something, LOL? I doubt it, so I guess this team now just gets to lay fallow after months of work.That is... discouraging. To say the least.

Give it a chance to see it at least. They may make it terrible but so far on reworks on an existing character (Zombie) they spent a lot of time and did a good job. We will see.

"evoluza;c-1806284" wrote:Luckily you can use every named Droid in other teams... Droid fans want full squads not droid slaves for other factions and most droids share something with others, even L3 (zeta) or chopper (assist) or bb8 - so the design is already build with the faction in mind and all we need are solid leads and since HK is the best generic droid lead (while his kit is clearly outdated) we simply fear that it will be worse or cut entirely (for canon reason or whatever) which leaves entire teams alone - heck even new ones like KOTOR T3 have no role under Carth, Bastila or Revan teams.

"Roopehunter;c-1806289" wrote:If you really didnt see that the new droids would be separatist droids, youre pretty bad at this game.However, its ok. Many people play this game for fun, to collect stuff. You obviously like droids, and you have a cool droid squad going there already. Keep adding to them if that brings you joy.88's lead is still fine for droids. If you want meta team strong lead, then you have to build a meta team (jedi/darth revan, or at least Grievous/ns/cls), theres no outsmarting the millions of players because you coincidentally like droids. Ig-88 lead was adjusted to BH teams.They created the Target Lock debuff synergy and OP and others like me made good use of it.My HK lead team can pawn any zBossk team right now GA and TW. A team against I will not use my Revan team

Look, in order to keep HK competitive they will simply take away Finn's ability to use a blaster. Now he will be resigned to K2SO style hand to hand combat.

"Scuttlebutt;c-1806432" wrote:You never know. It could be volume 2 of Revan style leader text lol. But seriously, it is kind of limiting to have a leader ability that provides so much TM. Could you imagine if someone like Canderous were a droid? His basic could get multiple crits in 1 action. He could create his own infinite loop with just his basic.So what? That leadership was only for droids, and it was never a meta even in the very old days...Now with the Revan, it is still isn’t meta, and will not. Why should they change it, it is a complete mystery for me

RETITLE: "Mildly Irritated" about HK-47 Leader Nerf

DVZR
6 years ago
Give it a chance to see it at least. They may make it terrible but so far on reworks on an existing character (Zombie) they spent a lot of time and did a good job. We will see.
Grimboz
6 years ago
"evoluza;c-1806284" wrote:
Luckily you can use every named Droid in other teams...

Droid fans want full squads not droid slaves for other factions and most droids share something with others, even L3 (zeta) or chopper (assist) or bb8 - so the design is already build with the faction in mind and all we need are solid leads and since HK is the best generic droid lead (while his kit is clearly outdated) we simply fear that it will be worse or cut entirely (for canon reason or whatever) which leaves entire teams alone - heck even new ones like KOTOR T3 have no role under Carth, Bastila or Revan teams.
MosJuzz
6 years ago
"Roopehunter;c-1806289" wrote:
If you really didnt see that the new droids would be separatist droids, youre pretty bad at this game.

However, its ok. Many people play this game for fun, to collect stuff. You obviously like droids, and you have a cool droid squad going there already. Keep adding to them if that brings you joy.

88's lead is still fine for droids.
If you want meta team strong lead, then you have to build a meta team (jedi/darth revan, or at least Grievous/ns/cls), theres no outsmarting the millions of players because you coincidentally like droids.

Ig-88 lead was adjusted to BH teams.

They created the Target Lock debuff synergy and OP and others like me made good use of it.

My HK lead team can pawn any zBossk team right now GA and TW. A team against I will not use my Revan team
Mephisto_style
6 years ago
Look, in order to keep HK competitive they will simply take away Finn's ability to use a blaster. Now he will be resigned to K2SO style hand to hand combat.
Armaturbatyr
6 years ago
"Scuttlebutt;c-1806432" wrote:
You never know. It could be volume 2 of Revan style leader text lol.

But seriously, it is kind of limiting to have a leader ability that provides so much TM. Could you imagine if someone like Canderous were a droid? His basic could get multiple crits in 1 action. He could create his own infinite loop with just his basic.

So what? That leadership was only for droids, and it was never a meta even in the very old days...
Now with the Revan, it is still isn’t meta, and will not. Why should they change it, it is a complete mystery for me
NyKynoe
6 years ago
"Vinniarth;c-1806496" wrote:
"Scuttlebutt;c-1806432" wrote:
You never know. It could be volume 2 of Revan style leader text lol.

But seriously, it is kind of limiting to have a leader ability that provides so much TM. Could you imagine if someone like Canderous were a droid? His basic could get multiple crits in 1 action. He could create his own infinite loop with just his basic.

So what? That leadership was only for droids, and it was never a meta even in the very old days...
Now with the Revan, it is still isn’t meta, and will not. Why should they change it, it is a complete mystery for me

Droids were never meta, but they kept me top 15 through several metas. Until biggs came around with his reaction to crits. Since then they have added a lot more reactions to crits.

I can see what they are saying. I am open to seeing what they do, but I love droids and feel that the change will make the current team a c team at best, and we will all be in a holding patter for more droids at some point.
DVZR
6 years ago
Yeah that the thing I dont get is why they are doing it because its not an OP lead. Can only surmise we are getting some more droids that might break it later (BB9E or Super Tactical Droid? Not sure who else it could be).
Persimius
Rising Traveler
6 years ago
First of all, why be mad? We don't even know what it is yet.

Secondly,
"VonZant;c-1806533" wrote:
Yeah that the thing I dont get is why they are doing it because its not an OP lead.

It's not OP *now*. We don't know what they have planned for droids, while they do. They're probably about to start TCW content in earnest until Ep9 this fall. Any droid they're adding that they want to have high crit and/or assist chances would create the dreaded infinite loop. So, they're changing it, and we can expect droids that attack out of turn in the next few months.

But no reason to be mad about anything until we know what they change it to.
SamuraiUX
6 years ago
"Stick;c-1806229" wrote:
Quit the game if this upsets you. The game doesn’t need you bud

I'd like to discuss this, because everyone else passed it by like this is just how life is now.

What value added is there from your posts existence in this discussion? Zero. This is because - and pay attention here - you wrote this because it makes you feel good to put people in their place and/or make them feel badly. Unfortunately, I'm a grown man with a PhD in Psychology, so rather than feeling badly, I simply feel like this brands you as a sad and not-so-good human being.

But if I were a teenager, it might have indeed made me feel badly. Would that have made you happy? Would you be pleased if your words made some kid upset or hurt or angry? This says a lot about you, and none of it good. I have to guess that you're a teenager yourself, because if you're any older than 16 and writing that... well, that's unfortunate.

@Roopehunter 's "If you really didnt see that the new droids would be separatist droids, youre pretty bad at this game" isn't particularly helpful, either although at least you offered some thoughts beyond the insult. In fact, I'm quite good at the game. I've been playing since it started. The thing is, as you noted, I play for my own enjoyment and build the teams I want to. I had been working on droids prior to hearing anything about a re-work, so it's more like I was irked when I found out that a different set of droids were coming. Luckily, the Separatists don't really blow me away, so I'm fine to continue with the droids I WAS looking for.

I do acknowledge that "furious" (in my title) is a bit melodramatic. "Annoyed" is probably a better description.

Guys, I understand lots of people who play this game are immature teens, but really. If you see someone post something like "why u here? leave coz we hates u" instead of just shrugging, be the kind of person who says "ignore that guy, he's an idiot." Because you don't know who's receiving it and what's going on in their life.
SamuraiUX
6 years ago
"StarSon;c-1806554" wrote:
First of all, why be mad? We don't even know what it is yet.

...no reason to be mad about anything until we know what they change it to.

You are absolutely right. My post is a bit reactionary. I'm willing to wait and see if we get another leader or even a better leader in a bit. I'm just irked because HK is my ONLY viable droid leader at the mo'. Just venting to the only people I know who would get what I'm irked at. =)