Sidious at relic levels with zeta
Is he any good? Modded correctly, he should have ridiculously high health reliced with his zeta. Is his damage decent? Worth it if you need an extra character for a second Sith team?
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So full disclosure I don't have a relic Sidious yet but I have encountered one. It is the same as it is with a lot of older characters - he's no longer worthless, but that's about the best you can say.
On swgoh.gg the top rated max health in the game is this one: https://swgoh.gg/p/537515681/characters/darth-sidious
This one is pretty slow, and the offense isn't great either so you can probably stand to lose some max health and benefit. He's at 86k health, so with 190% potency and the zeta that puts him at about 250k health total plus 42k protection for nearly 300k max health/protection which is actually quite good. 52% defense isn't terrible, but it's also not exceptional so in short the survivability is quite good. The problem with that is we're in a crazy heavy offensive environment, so even if that is really good it's still pretty easy to do major damage and chew through that pretty quickly.
I imagine the damage is pretty solid but not exceptional, as his kit is outdated and not geared to be viable in this era of kit descriptions being 4 pages long. Maybe under the right leader he becomes a big pain to deal with (any sith leader give retribution? With 30% health steal that seems nasty), but I wouldn't count on him being elite offensively.
Overall it's the same as it is with a majority of the characters who were brought into the game prior to Darth Traya. With relics they become viable options to a point. If you have 2-3 relic characters on your team, no matter who you relic they are going to seem awesome because you'll mostly end up facing a lot of G12 characters and the jump from G12 to relics is so massive the relic toon will almost always seem light years better. Once you have 4-12 relic toons you might still find whoever you relic to be useful, but unless you have a handful of very specific characters reliced then you won't compete because your opponent WILL have those characters reliced and certain teams are hard required to compete.
And then once you have 13+ reliced characters you absolutely have to have very specific characters reliced or you won't be able to compete at all. So at this point Sidious would actively harm you because he's certainly not in that core group. For example at that point say you're rocking a full Sith squad with Sidious and some other lesser known Sith but your Darth Revan/Malak team is still G12. Then every single opponent you face is going to destroy you because they have reliced DR/Malak and you are at a serious disadvantage.
On swgoh.gg the top rated max health in the game is this one: https://swgoh.gg/p/537515681/characters/darth-sidious
This one is pretty slow, and the offense isn't great either so you can probably stand to lose some max health and benefit. He's at 86k health, so with 190% potency and the zeta that puts him at about 250k health total plus 42k protection for nearly 300k max health/protection which is actually quite good. 52% defense isn't terrible, but it's also not exceptional so in short the survivability is quite good. The problem with that is we're in a crazy heavy offensive environment, so even if that is really good it's still pretty easy to do major damage and chew through that pretty quickly.
I imagine the damage is pretty solid but not exceptional, as his kit is outdated and not geared to be viable in this era of kit descriptions being 4 pages long. Maybe under the right leader he becomes a big pain to deal with (any sith leader give retribution? With 30% health steal that seems nasty), but I wouldn't count on him being elite offensively.
Overall it's the same as it is with a majority of the characters who were brought into the game prior to Darth Traya. With relics they become viable options to a point. If you have 2-3 relic characters on your team, no matter who you relic they are going to seem awesome because you'll mostly end up facing a lot of G12 characters and the jump from G12 to relics is so massive the relic toon will almost always seem light years better. Once you have 4-12 relic toons you might still find whoever you relic to be useful, but unless you have a handful of very specific characters reliced then you won't compete because your opponent WILL have those characters reliced and certain teams are hard required to compete.
And then once you have 13+ reliced characters you absolutely have to have very specific characters reliced or you won't be able to compete at all. So at this point Sidious would actively harm you because he's certainly not in that core group. For example at that point say you're rocking a full Sith squad with Sidious and some other lesser known Sith but your Darth Revan/Malak team is still G12. Then every single opponent you face is going to destroy you because they have reliced DR/Malak and you are at a serious disadvantage.
