Sion debuff vs GK counter...

Typically any ability that does damage and any status changes will do damage first then the status change. So in this case the retribution buff is still active when they damaged, then it is removed. Any "after turn" actions are then taken, like retribution.

"Kipagami;c-1625113" wrote:
Typically any ability that does damage and any status changes will do damage first then the status change. So in this case the retribution buff is still active when they damaged, then it is removed. Any "after turn" actions are then taken, like retribution.

But torment still does damage to toons with foresight, so it must be stripping buffs before applying damage.

I believe torment strips buff before dealing damage, but torment also can't be evaded, so foresight doesn't matter

OP, was this against a Bastila team?

"Kipagami;c-1625113" wrote:
Typically any ability that does damage and any status changes will do damage first then the status change. So in this case the retribution buff is still active when they damaged, then it is removed. Any "after turn" actions are then taken, like retribution.

This.

I think the only one they changed to before damage was daze.

"HK666;c-1625128" wrote:
I believe torment strips buff before dealing damage, but torment also can't be evaded, so foresight doesn't matter

OP, was this against a Bastila team?

Yes it was

Her unique, Legendary Battle Meditation gives Jedi 70% counter chance. Retribution was dispelled, Jedi countered anyway

... or at least, that's what I wanna say. that should of been dispelled too, as far as I know

maybe Sion deals damage first, but because he can't be evaded it goes through and wipes foresight

"HK666;c-1625170" wrote:
maybe Sion deals damage first, but because he can't be evaded it goes through and wipes foresight

I think it's that