Sith Eternal Emperor Soloed By SLKR?

"Bulldog1205;c-2180872" wrote:

You guys are missing out then. GAS ranks #1 on swgoh.gg in fewest banners per win on defense. But this will probably fall on deaf ears, making it a mute point too... ?

Nice vid on that vader counter to single tank SLKR with SEE just standing there. Such a high banner win!

"scuba;c-2180761" wrote:

Don't attack Kylo with him. God forbid someone would actually have to use multiple teams to climb in arena.

All the criticisms of SEE kit in practice are correct. I anticipated the worst reaction to these criticisms, and this is it: the idea that while an old GL should be able to crush every game mode to reward the people who got him first some more, anyone who saved for a Sith GL doesn't get anything and should have to get multiple GLs just to survive in arena.

To quote Dark Lord Anakin: "This is outrageous! It's unfair!"

"dgree;c-2180905" wrote:

"scuba;c-2180761" wrote:

Don't attack Kylo with him. God forbid someone would actually have to use multiple teams to climb in arena.

All the criticisms of SEE kit in practice are correct. I anticipated the worst reaction to these criticisms, and this is it: the idea that while an old GL should be able to crush every game mode to reward the people who got him first some more, anyone who saved for a Sith GL doesn't get anything and should have to get multiple GLs just to survive in arena.

To quote Dark Lord Anakin: "This is outrageous! It's unfair!"

This. 100% this. For the amount of resources needed for SEE, to have him be so lackluster is just heartbreaking. A few simple fixes would go along way. Make his unique Sow Discord hit any enemy, not just LS units. Give deceived targets -50% defense as well as the weaker daze like effect. Have his 2% prot regain from Sow Discord also restore health and hit his SITH allies.
His So be it, Jedi should also restore health as well since every single other sith kit relies on health like mechanics.

(for the record i own SLKR as well and can beat JML with him just by giving him wat's tank tech.)

That's my problem with youtubers. It's all about their views and click baits. Yes I understand they need to make money and that requires views. But still. Maybe a discussion on what we can do to make things better instead of "SEE BEATS SLKR! oh wait it was all vader all along" would be more productive.

Also blind devotion that things are "ok" when multiple SEE owners have come out and said the complete opposite isn't helpful either.

Granted, I have also watched Ahnaldt's SEE ultimate testing vid and by the end he visually looked disappointed. It was subtle but it was definitely there.

See teams beat Rey teams, or will when they get see ultimate (I've beaten uRey with see, but it's far from a guarantee). See decimates jml teams. See loses to Slkr teams hard. But slkr gets decimated by jmls. You are complaining about a rock paper scissors and want your new shiny to be a you win button,and that's not how this works. The game is designed now to require multiple GL if not all of them if you want an unstoppable meta. There is no team that is safe and unbeatable. It's what everyone wanted until they didn't want it.

All the gl have off meta counters. They have from the beginning. I've gotten 60 banner battles both against my Rey and against enemy Rey's with vader teams.

Would I like some changes to See's kit so that the 1v5 mechanism gets fixed, yes. Would I love to find a way for my see to beat slkr reliably, yes.

But that above team, I was down to 1v4 seep vs jml, jkl, gas, and Hoda. Seep proceeded to fart on every one of them and make them disappear. I even killed hoda before jml for good measure (and cause his heal was getting annoying). And I'm missing 3 zetas (including the 50% protection recovery on 1st special)

"thedrjojo;c-2180970" wrote:
There is no team that is safe and unbeatable.

Sorry, but this is a strawman. Nobody's saying they "want their new shiny to be a they win button". No one is complaining that SLKR on offense can beat SEE, at all. They just want a new GL to be capable (even if it requires putting together the right squad of high-relic Sith outside of the GL's requirements), of beating an older meta GL. But instead, the only way of beating a normal SLKR squad with Sith is by benching SEE.

But congratulations on your arena battle win. Let me ask: how are you climbing through SLKR walls?

The main thing that is making me upset is that 90% of my arena shard is SLKR. My daily climb won't change much after I unlock SEE in a couple weeks. At least I've gotten really good at the DR counter now...

I just use JKR lead JKL and Rey to beat any team. SLKR, Rey, JML or SEE, easy and peace and no need to switch team. People occasionally ask me to take mod off if they have one battle left and doesn’t want to risk a refresh. So as long as all GLs have their rock paper scissor setup, I think it is reasonable. There shouldn’t be an auto arena winning team. Even the team I used to beat all still need manual players for first few turns.

After each successfully t6 palpatine says “Is time for return of the sith”. CG are u making jokes on us? Are u kidding? Really?? Return of the sith ? Slkr solo vs see+4. For this “gl” we have hoarded gear , for this we did r7 sidious ? Both gml and See are jokes.

"Dobregt;c-2181140" wrote:
After each successfully t6 palpatine says “Is time for return of the sith”. CG are u making jokes on us? Are u kidding? Really?? Return of the sith ? Slkr solo vs see+4. For this “gl” we have hoarded gear , for this we did r7 sidious ? Both gml and See are jokes.

Yeah the saddest part to me about SEE isn't that he's bad, but that he's taking the spot of a Sith GL who could be better. SEE requiring all these R7 neglected Sith is indication there's little incentive to force players to relic them again, which makes it seem like the Sith are never "returning."