Sith/Empire vs Sith/Empire

In mirror matches between EPs, I've come to really appreciate the DT Krennic combo. If their Vader is faster than mine, he starts with his AOE... To get aoe cooldown increase in their faces. They might get an ability block 1st, but one of my time will go off and win the battle.

"Goodgil;c-1466358" wrote:
In mirror matches between EPs, I've come to really appreciate the DT Krennic combo. If their Vader is faster than mine, he starts with his AOE... To get aoe cooldown increase in their faces. They might get an ability block 1st, but one of my time will go off and win the battle.

I do like the fact that DT will gain lots of TM if he is not shocked when AOEs hit Krennic. It does kind of guarantee not having a tank in the squad though and then you are left with a pick'em between Starck, Tarkin, Thrawn and DN. I think I like DN best as a 5th here. I'm sure Drennic having daze helps a ton, especially on offense.

Which Special does Starck use first?

taking out of the equation ? why ? for 8 speed ? meh.
im using EzPz, zzader, GK, Thrawn as basis, with +1 changing. sometimes MT, sometimes zTarkin, sometimes DN, TFP, Maul... whatever feel like.
vs empire team, i can probably beat with each one of them. AI doing bad moves anyway, you have huge advantage. unless your mods are horrible, it should work.
id say, check what do you have most in shard. is it NS ? go a sith - DN/Maul. can surprise even in defense (Maul and asajj 1v1 is never-ending battle)
is it jRey ? well, MT is very annoying. worth a shot. also can surprise on def.
CLS ? zTarkin/TFP can be awesome.
Empire will be crushed by any of those.

Starck uses his AOE first on auto/defense.

I'm personally still running Zader/Wampa/EP/Thrawn/GK, but I'll admit I've got the mod advantage over all the Empire/Sith teams in my shard at the moment.

I think having IPD in there instead of GK might actually be the move. All the Sith/Empire use their AOEs right away so a tank isn't exactly going to be doing a whole lot. Having IPD in their with Nihilus gives you a rather high damage potential.

That brings up a question I had though, does Expose being triggered also trigger the TM gain from EP's lead? I don't have IPD yet, but I'm curious.

"Vertigo;c-1466415" wrote:
Starck uses his AOE first on auto/defense.

I'm personally still running Zader/Wampa/EP/Thrawn/GK, but I'll admit I've got the mod advantage over all the Empire/Sith teams in my shard at the moment.

I think having IPD in there instead of GK might actually be the move. All the Sith/Empire use their AOEs right away so a tank isn't exactly going to be doing a whole lot. Having IPD in their with Nihilus gives you a rather high damage potential.

That brings up a question I had though, does Expose being triggered also trigger the TM gain from EP's lead? I don't have IPD yet, but I'm curious.

It does on Zid, so yes.

I am running zzpalp, vader, tarkin, trawn and shore along four days only... XD so could be wrong...
Yesterday i tried to battle one empire team with DN instead of tarkin that outspeeded my team by a lot (vader included)... I got totally crushed xD
Today something cames to my mind, why not swap to trawn leader to get TM from their debuffs instead of mines? Since he will outspeed me anyway and dont let me move? XD

Just a soooo easy win... If u have a mirror match just use trawn leader, everytime enemy aoe debuff ur whole team will go after that xD

Sadly i think it will be a total disaster in defense... Because once ur debuffed team get his turn they will just selfcleanse to feed enemy TM, so i swaped to palp in the next battle against NS or JTR (cant remember xD)

"Olddumper;c-1466431" wrote:

"Vertigo;c-1466415" wrote:
Starck uses his AOE first on auto/defense.

I'm personally still running Zader/Wampa/EP/Thrawn/GK, but I'll admit I've got the mod advantage over all the Empire/Sith teams in my shard at the moment.

I think having IPD in there instead of GK might actually be the move. All the Sith/Empire use their AOEs right away so a tank isn't exactly going to be doing a whole lot. Having IPD in their with Nihilus gives you a rather high damage potential.

That brings up a question I had though, does Expose being triggered also trigger the TM gain from EP's lead? I don't have IPD yet, but I'm curious.

It does on Zid, so yes.

Thanks, I don't have EP's zeta lead yet as I'm just gonna try and play with my Wampa for as long as I can haha.

"ewqewqc;c-1466413" wrote:
taking out of the equation ? why ? for 8 speed ? meh.
im using EzPz, zzader, GK, Thrawn as basis, with +1 changing. sometimes MT, sometimes zTarkin, sometimes DN, TFP, Maul... whatever feel like.
vs empire team, i can probably beat with each one of them. AI doing bad moves anyway, you have huge advantage. unless your mods are horrible, it should work.
id say, check what do you have most in shard. is it NS ? go a sith - DN/Maul. can surprise even in defense (Maul and asajj 1v1 is never-ending battle)
is it jRey ? well, MT is very annoying. worth a shot. also can surprise on def.
CLS ? zTarkin/TFP can be awesome.
Empire will be crushed by any of those.

GK is 16 speed. Their Vader gets 8 fast and yours gets 8 slower. In general the faster Vader will win.

"Olddumper;c-1466456" wrote:

"ewqewqc;c-1466413" wrote:
taking out of the equation ? why ? for 8 speed ? meh.
im using EzPz, zzader, GK, Thrawn as basis, with +1 changing. sometimes MT, sometimes zTarkin, sometimes DN, TFP, Maul... whatever feel like.
vs empire team, i can probably beat with each one of them. AI doing bad moves anyway, you have huge advantage. unless your mods are horrible, it should work.
id say, check what do you have most in shard. is it NS ? go a sith - DN/Maul. can surprise even in defense (Maul and asajj 1v1 is never-ending battle)
is it jRey ? well, MT is very annoying. worth a shot. also can surprise on def.
CLS ? zTarkin/TFP can be awesome.
Empire will be crushed by any of those.

GK is 16 speed. Their Vader gets 8 fast and yours gets 8 slower. In general the faster Vader will win.

So with that in mind, anyone tried putting Maul into their zEP team? As someone who's been running Wampa + Zader, Wampa's AOE daze does wonders against these EP leads. Maul could do the same, but wouldn't sacrifice any of Vader's speed. He might be a bit slow for the job though...