A good example of a highly regarded toon who is very powerful but sadly possesses a bad unique/leader skill (in my opinion as well as from what I've read) is grand master Yoda who has a great zeta level unique but a poor leader skill possibly caused by the introduction of better toons and skills. I'd like to hear from you guys what toons fit this criteria for fun as well as potential avoidance for future toon development

Except you didnt zeta him, which is what the op was getting at I think

"OpticGK_Alex;c-1874997" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-1874984" wrote:"Zanzibar;c-1874953" wrote:Captain Phasma was pretty good. Then Kylo Unmasked came out.Thrawn did the same to TarkinTarkin and phasma zeta leads were never good.Tarkin was for a while, when going first was all that mattered and +28 made a big difference. Top 10 arena team for a short time. Idk what you define as good.

"seraphic;c-1875007" wrote:Stormtrooper is a decent toon, but his zeta is nasty.Nasty good or nasty bad? Lol. Back during the cls meta the counter was a thrawn lead that used storm, and there was quite a bit of debate over his zeta. I personally never went for it. I figure a tank is supposed to keep teammates alive, not get stronger when they die. I guess it's a good thing, but worth a zeta...?

"CCyrilS;c-1875010" wrote:"seraphic;c-1875007" wrote:Stormtrooper is a decent toon, but his zeta is nasty.Nasty good or nasty bad? Lol. Back during the cls meta the counter was a thrawn lead that used storm, and there was quite a bit of debate over his zeta. I personally never went for it. I figure a tank is supposed to keep teammates alive, not get stronger when they die. I guess it's a good thing, but worth a zeta...?plus 40% offense if another toon dies, and he's a tank that doesn't do much- i reckon he needs a different zeta or none at all.

"OpticGK_Alex;c-1874997" wrote:"CCyrilS;c-1874984" wrote:"Zanzibar;c-1874953" wrote:Captain Phasma was pretty good. Then Kylo Unmasked came out.Thrawn did the same to TarkinTarkin and phasma zeta leads were never good.Wrong.Phasma lead kicked ass pre-KRU.Just not many people ran FO back then..I used to kick ass in squad arena with phasma led FO.

Strong toons with outdated or horrid zeta level uniques

Fknurmomz2xs
6 years ago
Except you didnt zeta him, which is what the op was getting at I think
CCyrilS
6 years ago
"OpticGK_Alex;c-1874997" wrote:
"CCyrilS;c-1874984" wrote:
"Zanzibar;c-1874953" wrote:
Captain Phasma was pretty good. Then Kylo Unmasked came out.

Thrawn did the same to Tarkin

Tarkin and phasma zeta leads were never good.

Tarkin was for a while, when going first was all that mattered and +28 made a big difference. Top 10 arena team for a short time. Idk what you define as good.
CCyrilS
6 years ago
"seraphic;c-1875007" wrote:
Stormtrooper is a decent toon, but his zeta is nasty.

Nasty good or nasty bad? Lol. Back during the cls meta the counter was a thrawn lead that used storm, and there was quite a bit of debate over his zeta. I personally never went for it. I figure a tank is supposed to keep teammates alive, not get stronger when they die. I guess it's a good thing, but worth a zeta...?
Ashtyntb
6 years ago
"CCyrilS;c-1875010" wrote:
"seraphic;c-1875007" wrote:
Stormtrooper is a decent toon, but his zeta is nasty.

Nasty good or nasty bad? Lol. Back during the cls meta the counter was a thrawn lead that used storm, and there was quite a bit of debate over his zeta. I personally never went for it. I figure a tank is supposed to keep teammates alive, not get stronger when they die. I guess it's a good thing, but worth a zeta...?

plus 40% offense if another toon dies, and he's a tank that doesn't do much- i reckon he needs a different zeta or none at all.
DeltaNineTHC
6 years ago
"OpticGK_Alex;c-1874997" wrote:
"CCyrilS;c-1874984" wrote:
"Zanzibar;c-1874953" wrote:
Captain Phasma was pretty good. Then Kylo Unmasked came out.

Thrawn did the same to Tarkin

Tarkin and phasma zeta leads were never good.

Wrong.

Phasma lead kicked ass pre-KRU.
Just not many people ran FO back then..

I used to kick ass in squad arena with phasma led FO.
ThisYeezy
6 years ago
"DarthWok;c-1875018" wrote:
"OpticGK_Alex;c-1874997" wrote:
"CCyrilS;c-1874984" wrote:
"Zanzibar;c-1874953" wrote:
Captain Phasma was pretty good. Then Kylo Unmasked came out.

Thrawn did the same to Tarkin

Tarkin and phasma zeta leads were never good.

Wrong.

Phasma lead kicked **** pre-KRU.
Just not many people ran FO back then..

I used to kick **** in squad arena with phasma led FO.

Agreed. Just like Finn's original zeta made Resistance a powerhouse on offense, Phasma's did so for First Order. Same with Vader's leadership being great for the Rancor raid. Simpler times.
halmir24
6 years ago
Gmy lead can still be useful. He was the best p1 hate lead until bastilla was released.
Mephisto_style
6 years ago
"Halmirus;c-1874956" wrote:
Gmy lead can still be useful. He was the best p1 hate lead until bastilla was released.

He won for me on GA defense today. Costed my opponent a battle. Just gotta plan accordingly to capitalize on kits.
CCyrilS
6 years ago
"Zanzibar;c-1874953" wrote:
Captain Phasma was pretty good. Then Kylo Unmasked came out.

Thrawn did the same to Tarkin
OpticGK_Alex
6 years ago
"CCyrilS;c-1874984" wrote:
"Zanzibar;c-1874953" wrote:
Captain Phasma was pretty good. Then Kylo Unmasked came out.

Thrawn did the same to Tarkin

Tarkin and phasma zeta leads were never good.