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"Goride;c-1178916" wrote:"leef;c-1178861" wrote:"Vohbo;c-1178857" wrote:
"Every team has a counter" is a straw man argument and completely fallacious reasoning.
The point we are debating is Tenacity Up, not teams or the meta, but the ability itself.
Would every buff has a counter be solid reasoning in this discussion?SpoilerTenacity up actually has 2 counters; tenacity down and dispel. 3 if you want to count buff immunity aswell"Crazylazyguy;c-1178892" wrote:
Lmao, Jesus the amount of text just to try to disapprove an actual argument with made up facts.
Tenacity Down, Dispel are counters to Tenacity Up.
Those. Are. Facts.
No, they are not facts.
Tenacity down does NOT counter tenacity up.
First of all, if tenacity up has been applied, you cannot even land tenacity down. Tenacity down is a debuff, so tenacity up will block it from being applied. Second, even if you manage to land a tenacity down debuff before the enemy applies tenacity up, a character like Rex will cleanse tenacity down first and then apply tenacity up. So it does not even impact anything. In addition, lets say you land tenacity down, and a character like Yoda applies tenacity up (Yoda does not cleanse first like Rex), and so the enemy has both the tenacity down debuff and the tenacity up buff at the same time. It still does not help you, because the tenacity up buff TRUMPS the tenacity down debuff. So even if you manage to land tenacity down, once they put tenacity up on, tenacity down does nothing to help land debuffs.
At no point in time does tenacity down ever counter tenacity up. Tenacity down does not counter tenacity up if you land it before they apply tenacity up, and tenacity down does not help you if you try to apply it after they apply tenacity up.
The only counter for tenacity up buff is a dispel. That is pretty much it. Even buff immunity debuff is only so so, because a character like Rex will cleanse the buff immunity debuff first, and then apply the tenacity up, all in one ability.
Um, tenacity down can most definitely be applied through tenacity up. I use Krennic and TFP in my GW squad every. It's okay if you don't know how a debuff works, but maybe don't make such wild generalizations without checking your facts.
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