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9 years ago
I don't really think tenacity up is the problem. Those that say dispel or tenacity down is a counter are absolutely right (can we get an AOE tenacity down?). I think the bigger problem is the 2 characters that causs problems with tenacity up. Rex's AOE tenacity up both cleanses AND grants tenacity up AND grants turn meter. Chirrut also cleanses or grants tenacity up and heals. Both characters are extremely useful even against a team that doesn't have debuffs.
So basically they are characters that are already elite and also have the two biggest counters to debuff teams in the same move. Yes, you can dispel away tenacity up. But you can't erase a cleanse to restore debuffs. Fighting against multiple characters with dispel and tenacity up is a losing battle for debuff teams. Unless you can outspeed them and block them. Back to the speed problem then.
B2 may be a counter to tenacity up, or buff teams in general. But the thing about him is he's otherwise useless. That's literally all he does. Run a team that doesn't rely on buffs and B2 is worthless. If Chirrut and Rex were worthless against teams that don't rely on debuffs then things would be balanced. But they are strong characters anyways. So there is no risk in using them.
So basically they are characters that are already elite and also have the two biggest counters to debuff teams in the same move. Yes, you can dispel away tenacity up. But you can't erase a cleanse to restore debuffs. Fighting against multiple characters with dispel and tenacity up is a losing battle for debuff teams. Unless you can outspeed them and block them. Back to the speed problem then.
B2 may be a counter to tenacity up, or buff teams in general. But the thing about him is he's otherwise useless. That's literally all he does. Run a team that doesn't rely on buffs and B2 is worthless. If Chirrut and Rex were worthless against teams that don't rely on debuffs then things would be balanced. But they are strong characters anyways. So there is no risk in using them.
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