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9 years ago
As a Sith user, I find Tenacity up very frustrating, and overpowered. If Sith had a mass buff remover to counter it then I wouldn't have such an issue. As it stands though, Sith do not. B2 is an option, but then that means you have to sacrifice a slot for him, and B2 hits like a wet noodle. Plus he doesn't have a Sith tag so ignores all the leadership bonuses, although that is not as important.
There is also Ventress, but she isn't particularly useful outside of her buff removal.
Rex's tenacity up lasts for 3 whole turns, which is most of the battle. On top of that it grants everyone a significant amount of turn meter, and gives everyone on the team debuff immunity. Sith relies on debuffs and being unable to land any is a very large hindrance. The basic of Nihilis removes buffs as well, but this is only for a single target, so not good enough. What makes it even worse is many of the light side teams use him too, so it becomes a race of whose Nihilis goes first. Since Sith can't apply debuffs effectively due to tenacity up, and multiple cleanses, chaze teams with Nihilis tend to have an easier time getting Annihilate off first (drain force lowers cooldowns, plus gives light an easier time increasing cooldowns of the opponent). R2 makes matters all that much worse as well with debuffs of his own such as burn (why do lightside get the most powerful buffs, AND debuffs, when Sith do not have either?), and the cloaking. Add foresight in the mix to. It's just a perfect storm right now for chaze teams. Almost forgot that when Wedge is added as a lead the damage levels are very high.
Don't forget on top of that Chirrut grants tenacity up for everyone.
In short, Tenacity up right now is too overpowered to the point where it is broken as there are not enough effective counters. Hopefully, things will get fixed soon. Knowing how this game has gone, CG will probably ignore it, and fix the problem by continuing to counter it with abilities that can't be resisted like Fracture.
There is also Ventress, but she isn't particularly useful outside of her buff removal.
Rex's tenacity up lasts for 3 whole turns, which is most of the battle. On top of that it grants everyone a significant amount of turn meter, and gives everyone on the team debuff immunity. Sith relies on debuffs and being unable to land any is a very large hindrance. The basic of Nihilis removes buffs as well, but this is only for a single target, so not good enough. What makes it even worse is many of the light side teams use him too, so it becomes a race of whose Nihilis goes first. Since Sith can't apply debuffs effectively due to tenacity up, and multiple cleanses, chaze teams with Nihilis tend to have an easier time getting Annihilate off first (drain force lowers cooldowns, plus gives light an easier time increasing cooldowns of the opponent). R2 makes matters all that much worse as well with debuffs of his own such as burn (why do lightside get the most powerful buffs, AND debuffs, when Sith do not have either?), and the cloaking. Add foresight in the mix to. It's just a perfect storm right now for chaze teams. Almost forgot that when Wedge is added as a lead the damage levels are very high.
Don't forget on top of that Chirrut grants tenacity up for everyone.
In short, Tenacity up right now is too overpowered to the point where it is broken as there are not enough effective counters. Hopefully, things will get fixed soon. Knowing how this game has gone, CG will probably ignore it, and fix the problem by continuing to counter it with abilities that can't be resisted like Fracture.
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