Can someone explain why the devs cant get tenacity to work correctly? If i have rex at 80% and you get a built in resistance of 15% then I should only get debuffed 5% of the time.or if the other toon has 90% potency I should still resist a fair amount of time especially since EP only has a 70% chance to stun me.I still seem to get stunned 75% of the time. I shouldn't need tenacity up to resist buffs.I have to believe that if the devs could get this working right arena would seem much more interesting.

You don't understand how tenacity and potency work. The chance to resist a debuff is found by subtracting the attacking toon's potency from the defending toon's tenacity. That is then the chance to resistHowever there is a hard floor of 15% chance to resist any debuff. Therefore taking your Rex as an example with 80% tenacity. The chance he has to resist a debuff will depend on the attacking toon's potency and will be0% potency 80%50% pot. 30%65% pot. 15%80% pot. 15%1m% pot. 15%So you are right about one thing. Tenacity is a pretty underwhelming stat and you need it to be more than 15% higher than the opponent's potency to get any benefit from it.

Just bad RNG bud. Plus, I think it's a known fact by now that potency outdoes Tenacity.

tenacity - potency = chance to resist (with a minimum of 15%)a 90% potency character will get resisted just as often as a 65% potency character when attacking a 80% tenacity character. You'll need atleast 15% more tenacity than the attacker's potency in order to have a better chance of resisting. Long story short, tenacity sucks. I do prefer tenacity to suck though, if tenacity was a viable option we would see alot more *resisted* pop-up, wich would make arena less fun imo.

@Taxman i wrote my post quickly i do know that formula and get whats going on it just doesnt seem to make sense.we all make choices on our toons its the point of mods. Do you go for power/protection etc. If I go for tenacity i should be able to resist most debuffs. that doesn't happen right now. Potency kills tenacity. A palp with 80% potency is way more OP than a toon with 80% tenacity

I don't think the 15% gets added to the 80. From other posts on this, 15% is a lower bound on the resist chance. If you have only 80% tenacity, 80-90 = -10, which is less than 15, so you get bumped to 15% chance to resist.0.85*0.70= 0.595, so you should get stunned around 60% of the time.Wow, and apparently this comment was sitting in drafts without posting.

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Taxman1975
8 years ago
You don't understand how tenacity and potency work.

The chance to resist a debuff is found by subtracting the attacking toon's potency from the defending toon's tenacity. That is then the chance to resist

However there is a hard floor of 15% chance to resist any debuff.

Therefore taking your Rex as an example with 80% tenacity. The chance he has to resist a debuff will depend on the attacking toon's potency and will be

0% potency 80%
50% pot. 30%
65% pot. 15%
80% pot. 15%
1m% pot. 15%

So you are right about one thing. Tenacity is a pretty underwhelming stat and you need it to be more than 15% higher than the opponent's potency to get any benefit from it.
bac0n8ter
8 years ago
Just bad RNG bud. Plus, I think it's a known fact by now that potency outdoes Tenacity.
emvedebe
8 years ago
tenacity - potency = chance to resist (with a minimum of 15%)
a 90% potency character will get resisted just as often as a 65% potency character when attacking a 80% tenacity character. You'll need atleast 15% more tenacity than the attacker's potency in order to have a better chance of resisting.
Long story short, tenacity sucks. I do prefer tenacity to suck though, if tenacity was a viable option we would see alot more *resisted* pop-up, wich would make arena less fun imo.
chezhead72
8 years ago
@Taxman i wrote my post quickly i do know that formula and get whats going on it just doesnt seem to make sense.

we all make choices on our toons its the point of mods. Do you go for power/protection etc. If I go for tenacity i should be able to resist most debuffs. that doesn't happen right now. Potency kills tenacity. A palp with 80% potency is way more OP than a toon with 80% tenacity
crzydroid
Seasoned Traveler
8 years ago
I don't think the 15% gets added to the 80. From other posts on this, 15% is a lower bound on the resist chance. If you have only 80% tenacity, 80-90 = -10, which is less than 15, so you get bumped to 15% chance to resist.

0.85*0.70= 0.595, so you should get stunned around 60% of the time.

Wow, and apparently this comment was sitting in drafts without posting.
chezhead72
8 years ago
"crzydroid;923494" wrote:
I don't think the 15% gets added to the 80. From other posts on this, 15% is a lower bound on the resist chance. If you have only 80% tenacity, 80-90 = -10, which is less than 15, so you get bumped to 15% chance to resist.

0.85*0.70= 0.595, so you should get stunned around 60% of the time.

Wow, and apparently this comment was sitting in drafts without posting.

yep i get that. tenacity shouldn't work like that though. that's why tenacity sucks.

its like football. NFL knows people watch for high scoring games not defense. If tenacity worked right people wouldn't play this game.
crzydroid
Seasoned Traveler
8 years ago
How should it work if someone has 90% potency? 90>80. Advantage should go to potency toon.
emvedebe
8 years ago
"chezhead;923525" wrote:
"crzydroid;923494" wrote:
I don't think the 15% gets added to the 80. From other posts on this, 15% is a lower bound on the resist chance. If you have only 80% tenacity, 80-90 = -10, which is less than 15, so you get bumped to 15% chance to resist.

0.85*0.70= 0.595, so you should get stunned around 60% of the time.

Wow, and apparently this comment was sitting in drafts without posting.

yep i get that. tenacity shouldn't work like that though. that's why tenacity sucks.

its like football. NFL knows people watch for high scoring games not defense. If tenacity worked right people wouldn't play this game.

this comment confuses me. So you do think it's better the way tenacity currently works?
chezhead72
8 years ago
@leef no i think if i have 80% tenacity i should resist 80% of the time.
superEwokCat
8 years ago
"chezhead;923525" wrote:
"crzydroid;923494" wrote:
I don't think the 15% gets added to the 80. From other posts on this, 15% is a lower bound on the resist chance. If you have only 80% tenacity, 80-90 = -10, which is less than 15, so you get bumped to 15% chance to resist.

0.85*0.70= 0.595, so you should get stunned around 60% of the time.

Wow, and apparently this comment was sitting in drafts without posting.

yep i get that. tenacity shouldn't work like that though. that's why tenacity sucks.

its like football. NFL knows people watch for high scoring games not defense. If tenacity worked right people wouldn't play this game.

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