QuimSWGoH
10 years agoSeasoned Veteran
The Artificial Intelligence in the Arena: Attack (online) and Defense (offline)
There are some characters that are very useful when we have the control to decide every action, but, when the AI (artificial intelligence) have the control, some characters lose a lot of potential.
A easy example is:
● ASAJJ VENTRESS: she have very interesting abilities, but when the AI have the control is not very useful, because the AI uses the "Strike Fear" when the enemy have only one positive status effect, for example when Kylo Ren uses the "Lash Out" and gain retribution for 1 turn, but the other 4 characters don't have any positive status effect, then Ventress uses the "Strike Fear" and loses an opportunity to use it when more characters have positive status effects, and opportunity to do a basic attack or use the "Endless Wrath". Also she use the "Endless Wrath" at the beginning when all enemy characters are full of health, when it's better wait another round when the characters have less health to refresh all cooldowns on a finishing blow.
It is an example that Asajj Ventress is not useful if you are not controlling she, you need replace she in the last battle if you don't want lose a lot of positions in the rank.
More characters with AI problems:
● LUMINARA: She uses the "Master Healer's Blessing" for example when Kylo Ren uses "Lash Out" and the characters lose only 30% of his health, when would be more interesting to use the "Force Blast", I have Kylo Ren and when I want prevent the "Force Blast" of Luminara I use the "Lash Out", and then Luminara lose her cure ability for 3 turns, enough time to kill she, and lose an opportunity to use the "Force Blast", then I kill she before she can use it. Also she uses "Master Healer's Blessing" when a character have healing immunity, and when it's the only character with low health, misspending the ability and one turn. Also sometimes she attack Sidious, who have 35% evasion agains Jedi.
● SIDIOUS: He uses the AOE ability "Demoralizing Blows" at the beginning, when it's more interesting use a basic attack to apply the healing immunity to the character that you want kill second or first, to prevent the cure ability of Luminara. The AOE is very useful if you attack with Luminara and Kylo Ren a character and then the enemy Han, Chewbacca or Poe use the taunt, to kill the rest of this character, but if he use it at the beginning is not very useful. Also sometimes he use AOE when Dooku and Kylo Ren have 100% counterattack, then he can receive 3 attacks and to die.
● DOOKU: If you have Dooku, the most interesting thing at the beginning is try to stun Luminara, because he have 90% chance against Jedis, but he sometimes attack other characters that only have 40% chance, as IG-86, Kylo Ren, Sidious, Poggle, for example. Also if Luminara is alive, the most interesting thing would be continue attacking she to stun or to block she, but a lot of times Dooku attacks other inappropriate characters that is better attack at the end of the battle, as Kylo Ren, CT-5555, Poggle or Phasma, for example.
● YODA: It is one the characters who needs human manual control, because he have 3 special abilities with very special particularities that is difficult be interpreted by the AI. For example, at the beginning he always uses the "Unstoppable Force", that deal special damage to target enemy with a 65% chance to remove 40% turn meter, when sometimes is better use the "Battle Meditation" just at the beginning, to gain tenacity up for 2 turns, and in the second turn use "Masterstroke" or "Unstoppable Force". And if he use the the "Unstoppable Force"at the beginning would be more interesting attack fast characters as Geonosian Soldier, as Poe, as the Yoda enemy, to retard their abilities, but sometimes he attack IG-86, Poggle, Luminara or Kylo Ren, for example, that is not very important, would be more interesting attack Poe or GS.
● PHASMA: He sometimes uses the "Fusillade" at the beginning, when would be more useful use the "Victory March", to give to all allies 50% turn meter and advantage. Also sometimes use a basic attack.
● CHEWBACCA: He uses "Defiant Roar" when he have healing immunity, and also sometimes he uses a basic attack when he can use "Wookiee Rage".
● TALIA: She uses the cure ability ("Water of Life") when the character that she tries to cure have healing immunity, so the ability is useless in these cases and he loses the 20% of her health.
● POE: Sometimes if a enemy character only have 5% health, for example, he uses the basic attack to kill this character, and it's the end of the battle, because the strategy is based in the taunt of Poe, would be more interesting use the taunt and that other character kill the enemy low-health character. It is not very common, but sometimes I see it, that is something that happens with all tanks, also with Chewbacca or Han.
● DARTH VADER: Sometimes he uses "Culling Blade" at the beginning, when is much more useful use the "Force Crush" inflict 3 damage over time effects for 2 rounds and use the "Culling Blade" in the second round, when deals 40% more damage for each effect dispelled, not at the beginning when the characters don't have any negative effect.
● JEDI CONSULAR: The same problem that Luminara or Talia, he uses the cure ability when the character that he tries to cure have healing immunity.
● ATTACKS TO LOW-HEALTH CHARACTERS: I have commented it in Poe, but it is a AI problem that harm to all characters with important special abilities, as Old Ben, Kylo Ren, HK-47, IG-88, characters with AOE abilities, in summary, that are more useful that to kill that character at that moment.
● LEIA: Sometimes the most useful action is kill a character before her ability, for example if my GS and my Leia go first than the GS enemy, if I try to kill GS enemy, but he survive, then it's more interesting kill GS with Leia that use the "Rebel Tactics", because then GS can kill one of your characters, is better kill GS at that time and wait to use "Rebel Tactics".
Probably there are more AI problems, you can say more problems if you want.
I think that EA needs work in the AI to solve these problems, but who knows if it will happen someday, so meanwhile the best is think that some characters are not good to defense your rank and that is better, in the last battle, set characters with a real artificial intelligence, without AI problems.
The characters without important AI problems are:
- Geonosian Soldier
- Rey
- Poe Dameron
- Poggle
- Qui-Gon Jinn
- IG-86
- IG-88
- HK-47
- Kylo Ren
- Resistance Pilot
- Old Ben
- Royal Guard
- Old Daka
- Jawa
- Datcha
- CT-5555
- Barriss Offee
- Old Ewok
- Aayla Secura
- Han
These characters can play almost at the same level that an human, the only AI problems are the decision of "who attack first", that also would be improve, all characters have this problem, but at least these characters play well.
So I think that if you are controlling the characters is logical use Yoda, Leia, Sidious, Luminara, Dooku or Phasma, for example, but if you want defend the rank is better use characters who play without AI problems, for example a droid team is very useful, with Poggle (L), Poe, GS, IG-86 and IG-88, or with HK-47 (L), Poggle, Poe, IG-86 and IG-88, or if you have Rey and QGJ, a team as QGJ (L), GS, Rey, Poe and IG-86, for example, maybe you play online with QGJ (L), Yoda, Poggle, Lumi and GS, but offline you can change Yoda by Poe and Lumi by IG-86 or Kylo Ren, for example, to prevent the stun of Dooku enemy, to gain a more useful ability than the "Unstoppable Force" of Yoda, the Poe's taunt ability, the enemy always will kill first Yoda, so Yoda it is not very useful when the AI control he, Luminara can be stunned by Dooku when a player online is advancing in the rank, Sidious is not useful in the first turn, Phasma commits a lot of errors, Jedi Consultar is easy to stun by Dooku and has errors on cure, Leia is not useful in the first turn, Asajj Ventress tries to dispel only one positive effect, so there are characters that with a human control are very useful, but, when the AI control, it is more useful put another characters in the last battle to defend the rank.
It is important defend the rank, is not possible be rank #1 all the day, but yes don't lose more than 10 or 20 positions, then it's easy recover the rank #1 again without expend more than 50 crystals or without expend crystals.
My current team (rank #1) is Poggle (L), GS, Poe, Kylo Ren and IG-86, I'm farming IG-88 (almost 6*, gear 8), in 2 weeks I will changue Kylo by IG-88, but maybe IG-88 is better to attack (online) and Kylo better to defend (offline), I need check it.
You can say more AI problems if you want, and more "intelligent" characters to defend the rank :smiley:
A easy example is:
● ASAJJ VENTRESS: she have very interesting abilities, but when the AI have the control is not very useful, because the AI uses the "Strike Fear" when the enemy have only one positive status effect, for example when Kylo Ren uses the "Lash Out" and gain retribution for 1 turn, but the other 4 characters don't have any positive status effect, then Ventress uses the "Strike Fear" and loses an opportunity to use it when more characters have positive status effects, and opportunity to do a basic attack or use the "Endless Wrath". Also she use the "Endless Wrath" at the beginning when all enemy characters are full of health, when it's better wait another round when the characters have less health to refresh all cooldowns on a finishing blow.
It is an example that Asajj Ventress is not useful if you are not controlling she, you need replace she in the last battle if you don't want lose a lot of positions in the rank.
More characters with AI problems:
● LUMINARA: She uses the "Master Healer's Blessing" for example when Kylo Ren uses "Lash Out" and the characters lose only 30% of his health, when would be more interesting to use the "Force Blast", I have Kylo Ren and when I want prevent the "Force Blast" of Luminara I use the "Lash Out", and then Luminara lose her cure ability for 3 turns, enough time to kill she, and lose an opportunity to use the "Force Blast", then I kill she before she can use it. Also she uses "Master Healer's Blessing" when a character have healing immunity, and when it's the only character with low health, misspending the ability and one turn. Also sometimes she attack Sidious, who have 35% evasion agains Jedi.
● SIDIOUS: He uses the AOE ability "Demoralizing Blows" at the beginning, when it's more interesting use a basic attack to apply the healing immunity to the character that you want kill second or first, to prevent the cure ability of Luminara. The AOE is very useful if you attack with Luminara and Kylo Ren a character and then the enemy Han, Chewbacca or Poe use the taunt, to kill the rest of this character, but if he use it at the beginning is not very useful. Also sometimes he use AOE when Dooku and Kylo Ren have 100% counterattack, then he can receive 3 attacks and to die.
● DOOKU: If you have Dooku, the most interesting thing at the beginning is try to stun Luminara, because he have 90% chance against Jedis, but he sometimes attack other characters that only have 40% chance, as IG-86, Kylo Ren, Sidious, Poggle, for example. Also if Luminara is alive, the most interesting thing would be continue attacking she to stun or to block she, but a lot of times Dooku attacks other inappropriate characters that is better attack at the end of the battle, as Kylo Ren, CT-5555, Poggle or Phasma, for example.
● YODA: It is one the characters who needs human manual control, because he have 3 special abilities with very special particularities that is difficult be interpreted by the AI. For example, at the beginning he always uses the "Unstoppable Force", that deal special damage to target enemy with a 65% chance to remove 40% turn meter, when sometimes is better use the "Battle Meditation" just at the beginning, to gain tenacity up for 2 turns, and in the second turn use "Masterstroke" or "Unstoppable Force". And if he use the the "Unstoppable Force"at the beginning would be more interesting attack fast characters as Geonosian Soldier, as Poe, as the Yoda enemy, to retard their abilities, but sometimes he attack IG-86, Poggle, Luminara or Kylo Ren, for example, that is not very important, would be more interesting attack Poe or GS.
● PHASMA: He sometimes uses the "Fusillade" at the beginning, when would be more useful use the "Victory March", to give to all allies 50% turn meter and advantage. Also sometimes use a basic attack.
● CHEWBACCA: He uses "Defiant Roar" when he have healing immunity, and also sometimes he uses a basic attack when he can use "Wookiee Rage".
● TALIA: She uses the cure ability ("Water of Life") when the character that she tries to cure have healing immunity, so the ability is useless in these cases and he loses the 20% of her health.
● POE: Sometimes if a enemy character only have 5% health, for example, he uses the basic attack to kill this character, and it's the end of the battle, because the strategy is based in the taunt of Poe, would be more interesting use the taunt and that other character kill the enemy low-health character. It is not very common, but sometimes I see it, that is something that happens with all tanks, also with Chewbacca or Han.
● DARTH VADER: Sometimes he uses "Culling Blade" at the beginning, when is much more useful use the "Force Crush" inflict 3 damage over time effects for 2 rounds and use the "Culling Blade" in the second round, when deals 40% more damage for each effect dispelled, not at the beginning when the characters don't have any negative effect.
● JEDI CONSULAR: The same problem that Luminara or Talia, he uses the cure ability when the character that he tries to cure have healing immunity.
● ATTACKS TO LOW-HEALTH CHARACTERS: I have commented it in Poe, but it is a AI problem that harm to all characters with important special abilities, as Old Ben, Kylo Ren, HK-47, IG-88, characters with AOE abilities, in summary, that are more useful that to kill that character at that moment.
● LEIA: Sometimes the most useful action is kill a character before her ability, for example if my GS and my Leia go first than the GS enemy, if I try to kill GS enemy, but he survive, then it's more interesting kill GS with Leia that use the "Rebel Tactics", because then GS can kill one of your characters, is better kill GS at that time and wait to use "Rebel Tactics".
Probably there are more AI problems, you can say more problems if you want.
I think that EA needs work in the AI to solve these problems, but who knows if it will happen someday, so meanwhile the best is think that some characters are not good to defense your rank and that is better, in the last battle, set characters with a real artificial intelligence, without AI problems.
The characters without important AI problems are:
- Geonosian Soldier
- Rey
- Poe Dameron
- Poggle
- Qui-Gon Jinn
- IG-86
- IG-88
- HK-47
- Kylo Ren
- Resistance Pilot
- Old Ben
- Royal Guard
- Old Daka
- Jawa
- Datcha
- CT-5555
- Barriss Offee
- Old Ewok
- Aayla Secura
- Han
These characters can play almost at the same level that an human, the only AI problems are the decision of "who attack first", that also would be improve, all characters have this problem, but at least these characters play well.
So I think that if you are controlling the characters is logical use Yoda, Leia, Sidious, Luminara, Dooku or Phasma, for example, but if you want defend the rank is better use characters who play without AI problems, for example a droid team is very useful, with Poggle (L), Poe, GS, IG-86 and IG-88, or with HK-47 (L), Poggle, Poe, IG-86 and IG-88, or if you have Rey and QGJ, a team as QGJ (L), GS, Rey, Poe and IG-86, for example, maybe you play online with QGJ (L), Yoda, Poggle, Lumi and GS, but offline you can change Yoda by Poe and Lumi by IG-86 or Kylo Ren, for example, to prevent the stun of Dooku enemy, to gain a more useful ability than the "Unstoppable Force" of Yoda, the Poe's taunt ability, the enemy always will kill first Yoda, so Yoda it is not very useful when the AI control he, Luminara can be stunned by Dooku when a player online is advancing in the rank, Sidious is not useful in the first turn, Phasma commits a lot of errors, Jedi Consultar is easy to stun by Dooku and has errors on cure, Leia is not useful in the first turn, Asajj Ventress tries to dispel only one positive effect, so there are characters that with a human control are very useful, but, when the AI control, it is more useful put another characters in the last battle to defend the rank.
It is important defend the rank, is not possible be rank #1 all the day, but yes don't lose more than 10 or 20 positions, then it's easy recover the rank #1 again without expend more than 50 crystals or without expend crystals.
My current team (rank #1) is Poggle (L), GS, Poe, Kylo Ren and IG-86, I'm farming IG-88 (almost 6*, gear 8), in 2 weeks I will changue Kylo by IG-88, but maybe IG-88 is better to attack (online) and Kylo better to defend (offline), I need check it.
You can say more AI problems if you want, and more "intelligent" characters to defend the rank :smiley: