7 years ago

The Empire Strikes back! (Empire squads on newer shards)

I've seen a lot of threads from people asking about the viability of their empire squad on newer shards that are plagued with phoenix and rebel squads so I figured we needed a centralized thread where we can all share our transitions into empire. So if you've recently swapped over to empire please post the details or if you have questions please feel free to ask! I've had amazing success these last few days so I'll start!

Mid January 2018 shard
Original squad 7* phoenix level 70
Highest arena rank with phoenix was 48, lowest was at the end when I dropped to 102

Current empire squad (lvl 71) Went from rank 102 back up to 42 currently

6* EP gr8 (l)
5* Thrawn gr7
5* Vader gr7 (almost 6*)
5* Tarkin gr7 (almost 6*)
5* Stormtrooper (almost 6*)

My mods are about what you'd expect at level 71. I do have quite a few 5 dot but they aren't all ideal speed secondaries.

As of now I focus exclusively on fighting phoenix. I can easily beat a phoenix squad that is 15k-20k+ GP over me. This may be largely in part due to Thrawn so if anyone out there is running this comp minus Thrawn I'd love to hear your success stories!
My strategy is to start by AB Chopper, fracture Kanan, kill chopper, kill Ezra, kill Kanan, kill Hera, kill Zeb. I try to keep Hera ability blocked when I'm close to finishing someone so I don't have to kill them twice. I also try to use my debuffs such as Tarkin before I start chipping away at their health and then again after kanan is dead. You can choose to kill Kanan first, with his triple tag he dies pretty quickly, I just prefer Chopper as he is squishier and his health regeneration will work against the dots you'll have going. I also focus Ezra early on to remove their entire squads DPS and with the ease in which he dies.

I've also heard success with TFP in this squad, I'm just not sure what I would sacrifice for him. At this point I would say stormtrooper possibly as he is pretty gimp at this point in the game and his taunt is removed immediately against Phoenix, but I still prefer having it as backup. Tarkin could also possibly be swapped for TFP, mine is pretty weak as I've given preference to everyone else. The buff immunity and higher damage might be worth it, but Tarkin does bring potency down.

So I'd love to hear your stories and questions!

BarneyStin_sius
7 years ago
TFP will absolutely ruin Phoenix until you start running into zeta Kanan. Phoenix can’t handle an AoE Buff Immunity, and if TFP manages to survive the counter attack, he does loads of single target damage and takes a TON of turns very quickly.
Hoffman72510
7 years ago
"DedrickRogue;c-1469768" wrote:
TFP will absolutely ruin Phoenix until you start running into zeta Kanan. Phoenix can’t handle an AoE Buff Immunity, and if TFP manages to survive the counter attack, he does loads of single target damage and takes a TON of turns very quickly.

So who would you suggest dropping for TFP? I'd say it's between stormtrooper and tarkin, both are pretty weak at the moment.
ManuelGN93
7 years ago
I'm currently sitting between rank #10-20 with my Empire team.

- EP 6* G8

- Vader 4* almost 5* G8

- Tarkin 5* almost 6* G8

-Thrawn 5* G7 almost G8

- Boba 5* almost 6* G8 (useful aoe ability block to prevent Hera's backup)

Right now I'm farming KRU and Stormtrooper at the same time and hopefully I will replace Boba for one of them.

Due to what many people state, tanks can do pretty decent even at low stars if you gear and mod them well so I hope to test both in 1-2 weeks to check which one is more beneficial in mid-game since for end-game the best tank you can put in that squad is either GK or Shore.

Don't be afraid of fighting NS, I'm destroying them also. I remember when I got a draw against them with my phoenix because of the acolyte + zombie combo and now I just laugh at them. Revenge never felt so well :naughty:
mobewan0527
7 years ago
TFP is too squishy.

You would have to kill kanan first to get rid of the counters and then apply his buff immunity.

On defense he will get himself killed, so i dont recommend him for defense.

But his ship is the best so you should gear him anyway.

Maybe use him on arena offense for fun.
mobewan0527
7 years ago
Honestly though, i think your shard will quickly switch to empire so i recommend that you start working towards an empire team that can defeat other empire teams rather than worry too much about phoenix. As you noticed, you can already beat much better geared phoenix teams.
ChickenFett129
7 years ago
My shard has one Empire team, EPLead, at rank 5. The rest of the top 50 is Not a Jedi or being trained Rey and CLS. 1 NS Squad at rank 10 and a CLS kill team at 25.

Everyone else lower rank is running Empire or Rex led Rebels. Empire is not dominating top Arena as devined. It just displaced all the bad cookie cutter Chaze/Wiggs teams to lower ranks between 50-1500.
mobewan0527
7 years ago
Good question.

Most importantly, you should have the fastest speed on Vader compared to other Vader. That gives your team the first move.

You can switch in han solo for offense if your Vader is slower to stun their Vader.

Two tanks is a good idea, with 1 of them pretaunt. Like shoretrooper and go.

Other than that, you just have to look at the successful empire teams. Mainly, they the YouTubers are using EP, Vader, thrawn, gk +1. The best +1 are DN, imperial probe droid, shoretrooper. I hear stark is also good. Tarkin is good as a start, but I don't know if he can be as good as DN or IPD.
Hoffman72510
7 years ago
Hmm, I'm liking the use of KRU, I might start farming him since I need his ship anyway. Ultimately I need an R2 squad which is why I'm trying to stay with empire. Stormtrooper just feels so underwhelming right now, I'm hoping with a couple more stars he can beef up a bit.
ManuelGN93
7 years ago
"Mobewan;c-1469927" wrote:
Good question.

Most importantly, you should have the fastest speed on Vader compared to other Vader. That gives your team the first move.

You can switch in han solo for offense if your Vader is slower to stun their Vader.

Two tanks is a good idea, with 1 of them pretaunt. Like shoretrooper and go.

Other than that, you just have to look at the successful empire teams. Mainly, they the YouTubers are using EP, Vader, thrawn, gk +1. The best +1 are DN, imperial probe droid, shoretrooper. I hear stark is also good. Tarkin is good as a start, but I don't know if he can be as good as DN or IPD.

No offense but I don't know if you realise we are all 'new' to this game. We joined mid january shards so I'm so far right now of getting Han Solo, Shore (unless I buy packs which is something I won't) or even GK.

Personally I know GK or Shore are the best tanks for those squads but I'm talking from a mid-game perspective debating which tank either KRU or Stormy would fit better that fifth spot.

It's nice to see and learn from those gamechangers youtubers and their guides but again, they aren't useful at least for me at this moment because they talk from an endgame perspective imo.
jursllla
7 years ago
"Mobewan;c-1469927" wrote:
Good question.

You can switch in han solo for offense if your Vader is slower to stun their Vader.

Two tanks is a good idea, with 1 of them pretaunt. Like shoretrooper and go..

They started in Januari 2018.....

Han Solo is very long from 5* when played 4-5 weeks. hes a 10 week farm if they get into a decent guild day 1...

Shoretrooper is 85 farm that takes months. The new players in this thread is like 4-5 months away from getting him if they don't whale out and buy him for 200$.