The tragedy of Darth Traya

I think it's a fair point, especially when compared to General Kenobi who continues to be pretty much essential and valuable (fleet commander, key part of the Padme squad and just a generally solid kit that has stayed relevant).

You could make the case (and you have) that Traya has her use as a Geo counter but if I could only choose between having GK or Treya, I know which one I'd pick.

Can't speak too much about Raid Han bizarrely, I've never really developed him.

Shes also a good counter for GG droids and Padme, so i'd say they all have their uses, none of them is useless, which is what you need from a raid award.

That said, I do use her as lead a fair bit in DS TB as she makes Sith pretty durable. Pair her with Sion and Nihilus and pretty much always 4/4.

Yeah, she can counter geos, but the triumvirate can (with most any fillers) also offensively handle almost any JTR teams, most CLS and JKR teams (if they are evenly geared and modded), bounty hunters, oddball scoundrel lineups and most any of the previous Meta or near meta teams - makes for an extremely versatile option in GAC/TW, and doesn’t rob from any other teams, plus she did reign supreme in the arena for the best part of a year.

Kenobi is a pretty great tank and a stellar fleet commander, but in the current state of high end play, he is wedded pretty tightly to making Padme teams competitive against near meta teams like DR/Malak or GG/droids. Wether we see him migrate to GL Rey teams in Arena remains to be seen, but there isn’t a great option to replace him with in the Galactic Republic lineup for GAC/TW. So he is mostly seeing play With either a Legendary (padme) or two (threepio or GMY being popular 5ths), or with a Galactic Legend (Rey), honorable mention for the older JKR line up where he is with a heroes journey and usually a Legendary (GMY)

Han is another great character with a great (Legendary) ship, but how often do you see him not in a Rebel lineup, where to shine he is bolstered by a heroes Journey (CLS) and at least one (Chewbacca) Legendary, if not two or three (threepio and R2) to keep him semi-relevant as a near-meta counter.

I’d actually argue, particularly as the Sith Triumvirate raid has become more or less trivialized in difficulty to defeat over the last several months, that Traya is actually the most widely flexible in countering multiple teams (or at least neck and neck with CLS) with the least amount of investment in the supporting cast required, along with little to no interference in other squad compositions.

yes, definitely the least versatile, but in no way has she "aged poorly" she would still be a top choice to anyone building a roster and probably a little easier to get than DR.

yes the biggest problem with her kit is that she needs the triumvirant to be utilized at her best and the other 2 are pretty plug and play, even though Han is does do better with Chewie in there too.

I disagree, my Traya is r7 and she does quite a bit of heavy lifting. Definitely still a top tier toon.

As it stands currently, i think GK has the most all around usefulness (Cap ship, core of a padme team, and general plug and play viability), however i feel that Han and Traya are basically equivalent. Han shines as a plug and play character, but to me the CLS team lags behind the Trio in high end versatility (and requires far more investment in other legendaries to optimize).

"TVF;c-2098801" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-2098797" wrote:
Even if she's the "least useful raid character," she's still a fantastic character. I don't see the problem.

In addition to being a solid counter to Geos and Padme, the raid-boss functionality of Isolate makes her a solid plugin for a number of non-Sith raid teams. Less relevant now that Crunchwrap Supreme Kylo just absolutely murders everything, but still a way of using her that often went overlooked.

But like 2 people have Kylo and they're not having any fun, so still relevant.

Oh cool who's the other guy? Twinsies!

DT is just this side of useless. Compared to DR, GAS, Jedi Rey, DT isn't even relevant and needs a complete rework, but I won't hold my breath.

"DuneSeaFarmer;c-2098963" wrote:

"TVF;c-2098945" wrote:

"DuneSeaFarmer;c-2098820" wrote:
DT is just this side of useless. Compared to DR, GAS, Jedi Rey, DT isn't even relevant and needs a complete rework, but I won't hold my breath.

Lol Darth Traya is not barely useful and lol at comparing her to the past two metas and the current one. I suppose Han and GK need reworks too.

"SHILL IN THE DUNGEON.. SHILL IN THE DUNGEON.. Thought you ought to know..". We all know you will take the other side of any complaint. Which lets us know we're right. Now, off with you. Go add things to the QOL that no one wants.. lol

So finding usefulness for a certain toon makes one a shill? Claiming victory over not knowing how to make use of Traya seems...odd.