So, as someone who didn't whale on Revan I'm trying to work out why he ALWAYS targets traya. I've asked around and the best answer I've found is this:"If he doesn't target Traya, she isolates him and its game over."So, every other toon in the game is subject to RNG, but Revan isn't? He will always target traya because if he doesn't, he won't hold on defence and there fore would be useless in arena. Say it ain't so... If it's really only for that reason I'd say that's pretty messed up. I'm glad he was introduced but the whole premise of arena battles was based on RNG, now we have one toon targeting another because her special ability is better than his, if she's gets to land it on him. Someone's gotta be joking right?

The AI has always been subject to RNG too... It's like it's hard-coded into the AI, which has never been done before. The AI doesn't always choose the right toon. This new mechanic does. So basically people who paid for him not only paid for the toon, they paid for the privilege to not have to deal with RNG on defence. That is a joke...

As stated above the AI is NOT random. It has many hard coded features based on stats and other in game factors.They didn't remove RNG from revan, they made him to be a hard counter.

The AI has always been predictable and easy to manipulate, as it follows a specific coded pattern, Revans is just easy to spot, but it's nothing new, as it has been like that always, just not as easy to spot

"Jeric;c-1677287" wrote:Good AI design should never involve randomness, and should always take into account the opposition stats and comps. With some AI actions it is dependent on the parameter passed during a condition check. In some the parameter is a stat, in this case it’s a character. This is actually how a good static AI is designed if it is supposed to be challenging. Revan always targeting Traya if available is actually legitimately better AI design than random targeting. This is how a human would play that team intelligently and that should be the goal for game developer AI. So what you're saying is right, I'm not going dispute that fact. AI should always think like a human as best as possible. However we just had another legendary character released a few weeks before Revan, who would also benefit from that logic. Chewy. If ran with Zolo the biggest threat from the other team is always traya, yet it's always random who they both attack first. So, maybe there needs to be an AI stat introduced into the game so we can all farm "smart" characters to put on defence... It's a joke buddy, I'm glad you're enjoying your Revan :-)

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aka_mannah
7 years ago
The AI has always been subject to RNG too... It's like it's hard-coded into the AI, which has never been done before. The AI doesn't always choose the right toon. This new mechanic does.
So basically people who paid for him not only paid for the toon, they paid for the privilege to not have to deal with RNG on defence.

That is a joke...
NyKynoe
7 years ago
As stated above the AI is NOT random. It has many hard coded features based on stats and other in game factors.

They didn't remove RNG from revan, they made him to be a hard counter.
Ztyledk
7 years ago
The AI has always been predictable and easy to manipulate, as it follows a specific coded pattern, Revans is just easy to spot, but it's nothing new, as it has been like that always, just not as easy to spot
aka_mannah
7 years ago
"Jeric;c-1677287" wrote:
Good AI design should never involve randomness, and should always take into account the opposition stats and comps. With some AI actions it is dependent on the parameter passed during a condition check. In some the parameter is a stat, in this case it’s a character. This is actually how a good static AI is designed if it is supposed to be challenging.

Revan always targeting Traya if available is actually legitimately better AI design than random targeting. This is how a human would play that team intelligently and that should be the goal for game developer AI.

So what you're saying is right, I'm not going dispute that fact. AI should always think like a human as best as possible. However we just had another legendary character released a few weeks before Revan, who would also benefit from that logic. Chewy. If ran with Zolo the biggest threat from the other team is always traya, yet it's always random who they both attack first.

So, maybe there needs to be an AI stat introduced into the game so we can all farm "smart" characters to put on defence...

It's a joke buddy, I'm glad you're enjoying your Revan :-)
N0oTry
7 years ago
BTTripleZero
7 years ago
Can we complain about the characters the AI doesn’t make the right choice on, instead of the ones it does?
ctyc123
7 years ago
I feel that hard coding for revan to always mark traya should be transparent.

Traya's isolate the largest total hp+prot, that's a variable.

But in terms of hardcoding, someone please get a developer to confirm. If that is so. Will this be for all new p2p toons going forward?

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aka_mannah
7 years ago
"ctyc123;c-1678216" wrote:
I feel that hard coding for revan to always mark traya should be transparent.

Traya's isolate the largest total hp+prot, that's a variable.

But in terms of hardcoding, someone please get a developer to confirm. If that is so. Will this be for all new p2p toons going forward?

@CG_SBCrumb

I don't think they are answer a question like that, it really opens a can of worms...

Or spaghetti in this case... That's how the code for this game is written from what I've be told from multiple sources.

Catering to the cash economy.

Go back two years we needed any 5 rebels to get EP. If EP was just being released now, we'd need 3 marquee toons and two that are useless on hard node farms that are not in shops or don't have regular events to farm them.

I really enjoy this game but the core business model sure has changed for the worse.
N0oTry
7 years ago
Noone is joking. It's called ai, it's never supposed to be -just random-. Instead it should be picking as close to a human player.
Kiritoismyname
7 years ago
Yeah it sounds very sketchy. Been brushed off for now, but its bs. Kinda like how opp NEVER hits tfp in ships.

Bad omens for the game if this is the way it is gonna be, going forward, imo.