Thrawn TM Swap

Unfortunately that is how it currently works. It really is something that needs fixed with thrawn's ability. Normally I give CG the benefit of the doubt but I agree with the op on this one that letting a random other toon go ahead of the one you swapped turns with defeats the whole purpose of the ability.

"BubbaFett;c-1592522" wrote:
Every time you use an ability, every toon on the board gains TM..... That's the way the game works and this ability is no different

That actually is not completely accurate. If 2 characters are at 100% tm and character 1 goes, then character 2 goes, no other toons should be gaining TM inbetween. The TM gains occur when 1 characters turn ends and no one else is at 100%. Exemplified by using zFinn lead, you can just keep getting your characters to 100% never letting the enemy team build up any TM.

So If my thrawn goes and swaps TM with another ally that already had 100% TM then no other characters on the board should be gaining TM and going before either of my characters unless it was from dispelling a debuff or something. Not sure if this scenario is happening but I dont think it should be.

When more than one toon reaches 100% TM at the same time, it is random in which order they take their turns.

"SGMiller87;c-1592463" wrote:
When more than one toon reaches 100% TM at the same time, it is random in which order they take their turns.

This.

You can even "swap" tm with someone at 100% TM and have thrawn go before that toon...... it would be great if this was addressed with direct TM abilities like this.

"Kyno;c-1592468" wrote:

"SGMiller87;c-1592463" wrote:
When more than one toon reaches 100% TM at the same time, it is random in which order they take their turns.

This.

You can even "swap" tm with someone at 100% TM and have thrawn go before that toon...... it would be great if this was addressed with direct TM abilities like this.

Hahaha yep, that drives me slightly crazy when it happens. With that said, I generally am using this ability in order to just reduce his cooldown for fracture and to regen protection.

yes but there are times when you swap it to say sion who is at 100% tm so you can use his mass dispel so when thrawn goes again, he can fracture say jtr who was under stealth from r2. In situations like this when it randomly gives thrawn the turn instead of sion because they are both at 100% tm it completely defeats the purpose of the ability which is to let another ally go so they can use an ability tgat is needed before thrawn goes. I'm actually fine with the random selection if more than one toon gets to 100% tm but if this ability was working as described, the ally selected would go to the front of that line and get the very next turn. That doesn't happen in all cases.

"BubbaFett;c-1592502" wrote:

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1592489" wrote:
yes but there are times when you swap it to say sion who is at 100% tm so you can use his mass dispel so when thrawn goes again, he can fracture say jtr who was under stealth from r2. In situations like this when it randomly gives thrawn the turn instead of sion because they are both at 100% tm it completely defeats the purpose of the ability which is to let another ally go so they can use an ability tgat is needed before thrawn goes. I'm actually fine with the random selection if more than one toon gets to 100% tm but if this ability was working as described, the ally selected would go to the front of that line and get the very next turn. That doesn't happen in all cases.

That's not "the purpose of the ability"..….. That's just how you are defining the ability... If it was intended to be a turn swap, it would be listed as such....

This game is more than just smashing buttons, you have to pay attention to turn meter, health etc.... If you look at the turn meter bars and know this may happen, simply save the ability and use a different one or take the risk....

The ability literally says "Swap tm with target ally". How's that not supposed to be a tm swap to give the ally Thrawn's turn? And I am perfectly aware of how it works in practice and take that into account. Just because I think it should work as intended bt the text does not mean I just mash buttons to win. CG has already said the randomness of who goes when more than one character reaches 100% tm at the same time is something they want to eventually fix. So your argument that we are ignorant and it's wai isn't a strong one.

Explaining why this is screwed up, or explaining how to deal with this screw up are not valid responses.

Luke and Leia get to keep their turns when they give themselves TM, so the mechanism is already in place to have this work correctly, but cg can't figure out how to profit from fixing it, so they don't care.

Since thrawn is literally taking his turn when he uses his ability you could think of it as his tm being 100% plus since he has already been selected to take a turn. So the character that gets his tm should get the turn that Thrawn had already been selected to take. No one is arguing that is how it currently works, obviously it doesn't just that it should work like tgat based on the intent of Thrawn's kit.

"BubbaFett;c-1592529" wrote:
Also, fixing the randomness of who goes first has nothing to do with this ability.... The majority of the player base feels the toon with the highest speed should go first.... So, if they put that in place, this ability won't change in any way.....

If they put that in place it absolutely should fix this. At the point if it was decided that thrawn is going based on his speed, giving the turn he is entitled to based on his speed to another character, that character should get the turn. Otherwise, you defeat the purpose of swapping tm with that character. The real difference comes down to that I see the character tgat has already been selected to take a turn, to have higher priority than those waiting to take a turn at 100%. That priority should transfer with the tm swao.