Why change anything?If more people are having fun then complaining please keep the happy accident.Can we rally a coalition, petition, something to stop this.- other teams can solo pit, "Jyn"- higher damage teams for tank, "Clones, Kylo"- Vader did not shift the arena meta like MaulLet's not even start on all the resources used to create a TEAM around Vader, time, gear, credits.How many made a decision to shift resources to focus on Vader + Zeta and a team of Sith or Empire.Guild mate posted this:"CG_feltz916 - It is a bug. Vader's TM removal is more than intended on an encounter beyond the first of a battle and/or raid. I cannot give a date as to when it will be fixed, other than soon."

I have to agree. I focused a lot of resources including real money to get Vader's zeta squad, which I also use for arena currently. This was even after the fix on the zeta before. If it wasn't as effective in the Rancor raid I likely would have invested my resources elsewhere.

"Mzee;c-1043120" wrote:I have to agree. I focused a lot of resources including real money to get Vader's zeta squad, which I also use for arena currently. This was even after the fix on the zeta before. If it wasn't as effective in the Rancor raid I likely would have invested my resources elsewhere.Like the OP, I see you also want something for free. When you read Zader's ability, it CLEARLY says what's intended. That's ALL you deserve, and absolutely nothing more.

I totally agree or I'll have a refund, you fixed a bug last time on him knowing quite well what his TM reduction was doing in the Pit. But you didn't fix the TM so I put my Zs on him..! The horse has bolted with this one EA, I would have kept investing in my Teebo TM squad months ago, I didn't I maxxd a Zader Pit Team I do now, many others too..!Two Guildies just placed Zs on their DV to achieve the same numbers as the rest of the guild, the had no idea it was bugged. They just wanted to " be up with the boys n girls ". Don't take peoples fun away from them, I don't hear any complaints.. Do we know to what extent Zader will be viable in the Pit..Someone fire up a petition my guild will sign it.. ✌

"SnakesOnAPlane;c-1043148" wrote:"Mzee;c-1043120" wrote:I have to agree. I focused a lot of resources including real money to get Vader's zeta squad, which I also use for arena currently. This was even after the fix on the zeta before. If it wasn't as effective in the Rancor raid I likely would have invested my resources elsewhere.Like the OP, I see you also want something for free. When you read Zader's ability, it CLEARLY says what's intended. That's ALL you deserve, and absolutely nothing more.The thing is a lot of people have zeta'd him based on the want to solo the rancor. Guildie of mine just zeta'd him and had no idea he was bugged in rancor....

"SnakesOnAPlane;c-1043148" wrote:Like the OP, I see you also want something for free. When you read Zader's ability, it CLEARLY says what's intended. That's ALL you deserve, and absolutely nothing more."Hey Bob, you posted huge numbers in the raid, how did you do it?""Glad you asked. I read from the official forum that after Vader's zeta was fixed he now works extremely well in the pit raid. I put my zeta there, I'm happy with the results."As the real mechanism is not known we can only observe the results. If what was intended differed so much from what was going on why did it take months for the devs finally to figure out it actually was a bug?That said, of course it was a bug, it was immediately obvious. I tried it a few times and then stopped doing it. I reach the top without that, too, besides the rewards on the top have been challenge gear and other assorted garbage always.My Vader is very useful in AAT p2 and GW. That's enough for me. Placed zeta on him for the tanks, instead of the pit where Rancor goes down in fifteen minutes thanks to 4x auto.

#VaderNerf possibly on the horizon???

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WarrMonkey
8 years ago
"Crazylazyguy;c-1043360" wrote:
"warmonkey;c-1043308" wrote:
That's too bad. Will go back to posting zeros in raid now. Wasn't fun before, is fun now, won't be fun soon. I asked for refund after first "bug fix" and I'm still salty over that. Good will is lost. This is not the way to fix your system of ties! You are about to **** off almost every player in the game.

How so? You gave your zeta for what is written in the description, which is 50% chance to remove 20% tm. Where does it say that you should remove more with each phase?

That arguement will work well when majority log in and try raiding. Lol and sigh
emvedebe
8 years ago
"warmonkey;c-1043308" wrote:
That's too bad. Will go back to posting zeros in raid now. Wasn't fun before, is fun now, won't be fun soon. I asked for refund after first "bug fix" and I'm still salty over that. Good will is lost. This is not the way to fix your system of ties! You are about to **** off almost every player in the game.

i reckon that it will actually fix they system of ties for alot of guilds, simply because alot less players are going to solo the rancor.
Melvil1948
8 years ago
Yeah I didn't see anyone complaining about it until now....and even now people are complaining to keep it...Vader is so far my only zeta toon and even with a teem with him my arena rank has stayed the same as it was with my rebels. I run a Zader team now in GW and complete it just as easily as before.

On the other hand I can solo the Heroic Rancor and when that happened, I felt like I finally achieved something in the game and felt pleased with my progress....and now we're "fixing" the bug...fixing this is not a solution of the problem with raid rankings and rewards - that needs to be addressed....let us have this one thing :)
WarrMonkey
8 years ago
I knew this was a possibilty and have been telling people who ask me for advice to be careful if zetaing vader for raid. Doesn't change the fact that it is one of the only places left to have fun in the game. Unless you are a whale there isn't much point to haat since you won't be getting top ranks unless they let you by being nice or your guild sets up rules that hurt their rank, which we don't cause that's garbage to do. I'm top 100ish guild and it is not uncommon for 20 people to not go beyond posting a zero.
Nightlores
8 years ago
Ye I zeta's vader as well. But it's a bug, sometimes it gets fixed and sometimes it doesn't. Shit happens ;)
Acidwormss
8 years ago
"SnakesOnAPlane;c-1043148" wrote:
"Mzee;c-1043120" wrote:
I have to agree. I focused a lot of resources including real money to get Vader's zeta squad, which I also use for arena currently. This was even after the fix on the zeta before. If it wasn't as effective in the Rancor raid I likely would have invested my resources elsewhere.

Like the OP, I see you also want something for free. When you read Zader's ability, it CLEARLY says what's intended. That's ALL you deserve, and absolutely nothing more.

I wasn't even aware that the turn meter was growing in-between phases until after I got him, and noticed it. I just heard how good he was for soloing Rancor, and I had seen a video that was recorded before the first fix.

And, I want something for free? Interesting, but incorrect conclusion. Building an entire team around it takes a lot of investment.

If I can still solo it, then I am ok with that.
Fahrius
8 years ago
So you spend resources on something cuz it was bugged...
Everybody said that it was bugged since day 2, so you can't say that you didnt knew it...
And really expect that devs don't fix it?
Lol
Just develope another toons and hope to make them work with zader true lead, like magmatrooper...
#getoverit
thecoolig88
8 years ago
You guys realize 99% of people who play aren't active in the forums. How would they know it's bugged? To them it will be just a huge nerf and I would be pretty pissed if they didn't give the zetas back.
Bennehftw
8 years ago
Lol, I mean first you guys are complaining about ties in the raid, which was essentially SOLEY created due to Vader'a bug, and now you're sad that they're going to fix not only ties, but a bug.

Funny.
mewingloki
8 years ago
"Ig88isboss;c-1044310" wrote:
You guys realize 99% of people who play aren't active in the forums. How would they know it's bugged? To them it will be just a huge nerf and I would be pretty **** if they didn't give the zetas back.

It's not a nerf. The ability has always said 50% chance to remove 20% TM. It will still do exactly that.

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