Very Stupid Balance of Power

Why do you purposefully misspell mods?

"PlayerJ;c-2446938" wrote:


At that point, I wrote my message saying.
Wait a min, The game isn’t completely Speed “Only”.

There are characters, strategies, & MOD which exist which can do very good with out speed.
This is how the developers added balance to the game.

The “OP Mind” is thinking the game is pure Speed Only.
You telling him the game is Speed Only does nothing except reinforce the Imbalance the OP believes exists

You can’t read what the OP said now because it looks like a lot of what he said as well as few others said has been removed. Just know I’m not trolling and the reason I said what I said was to help the OP understand the developers balanced the game very well.

Except that with a very small number of exceptions, literally a handful, speed is king. The OP was right to point out that the game is poorly balanced. It is.

Any suggestion that the OP can make strategies and squads work to their greatest potential in the vast, vast majority of cases while ignoring speed is disingenuous.

The fact that you're arguing with veteran players that know these things speaks alot. Ya some may not have the best responses but what they're saying is true non the less. Speed is king/queen, you'll need it pretty much everywhere. Even pre taunting tanks can use speed.

Shoretrooper is 1 example. He pretaunts but speed can help him taunt again if he looses it and heals if it's needed. Speed can save a shore in a dire circumstances.

There's some exceptions where speed isn't priority but even still speed is nice to have on them. Probally >5% of toons don't need speed priority but would still greatly benefit them.

@PlayerJ

The “OP Mind” is thinking the game is pure Speed Only.
You telling him the game is Speed Only does nothing except reinforce the Imbalance the OP believes exists

What? I never said the game is speed only. Not once. If you want to participate productively, you're going to have to have some idea of what other people are actually saying.

"PlayerJ;c-2446999" wrote:

"MasterSeedy;c-2446994" wrote:
@PlayerJ

The “OP Mind” is thinking the game is pure Speed Only.
You telling him the game is Speed Only does nothing except reinforce the Imbalance the OP believes exists

What? I never said the game is speed only. Not once. If you want to participate productively, you're going to have to have some idea of what other people are actually saying.

The OP came to the thread upset because his relic characters lost.
Forum players didn’t respond the best way.

After the OP shared his Ally code, the following happened:
- Salatius told the OP his MOD’s were poor due to no Speed.
- Wolverine told the OP 90% of his MOD’s need to be redone.
- Wolverine - than said Speed is King

At which point, the OP had a melt down.
OP already upset his characters lost and is being told 90% of his MOD’s need to be redone due to low speed.

Can you blame OP for having a melt down?
The OP began cursing out game.
The OP began cursing out developers.

Afterward, the OP began saying the game shouldn’t be a Speed only game.
At which point, Forum posters began responding to the OP.

- TVF told the OP he needs to join in, don’t care, or quit
- Veskasakstar told OP he is bad at game and should try playing candy crush.
- Deathbringer told OP speed is name of the game.

So you are correct Seedy.
It wasn’t you specifically who told the OP the game is Speed Only.
No one besides the OP used the term, but forum players did reinforce the idea by telling him the above.

Which is why I said what I said.
At this point, I just hope the OP doesn’t quit the game.

Hopefully, my words helped the OP calm down and realize he can still salvage the situation.
It will be sad to lose a potential teammate or friend.

Commenters were blunt to the OP because, from an inspection of their roster they needed to hear some unpleasant truths, that being that they were going to severely struggle by seemingly not focusing on speed on their mods. With a very small handful of exceptions, as noted above, speed is the focus of correct modding, and by not taking action soon they are likely to continue to struggle more and more. While you might think you are being helpful by telling the OP there are other ways is actually counterproductive to what they want to achieve. The game is unbalanced towards speed on mods. That's just a fact. Ignoring it doesn't help you and doesn't help those you claim to be helping.

Could the other commenter have expressed it in a more compassionate way? Possibly. But if they had done so is it also possible that the player would not have taken onboard the message and would have continued to mod their toons poorly. That they lashed out after being told they were not doing a great job is representative of their maturity in taking what was constructive criticism phrased in a largely positive manner.

At this point, I just hope the OP doesn’t quit the game.

It's fine if the player leaves the game. It's a game. It's not meant to be our lives.

I want the player to be happy and enjoy life. If that involves playing this game, great! If it involves quitting b/c they realize that they have a different fundamental idea of fairness than CG and that means that they can never enjoy SWGOH, well I'm glad that they know themselves well enough to understand what makes them happy and I wish them well.

If they stay, I'll be around to answer future questions that they ask. I try to provide help to all players, when I can. But if what's best for them is leaving the game then I won't be telling them that they should stick around.

"PlayerJ;c-2446999" wrote:

"MasterSeedy;c-2446994" wrote:
@PlayerJ

The “OP Mind” is thinking the game is pure Speed Only.
You telling him the game is Speed Only does nothing except reinforce the Imbalance the OP believes exists

What? I never said the game is speed only. Not once. If you want to participate productively, you're going to have to have some idea of what other people are actually saying.

The OP came to the thread upset because his relic characters lost.
Forum players didn’t respond the best way.

After the OP shared his Ally code, the following happened:
- Salatius told the OP his MOD’s were poor due to no Speed.
- Wolverine told the OP 90% of his MOD’s need to be redone.
- Wolverine - than said Speed is King

At which point, the OP had a melt down.
OP already upset his characters lost and is being told 90% of his MOD’s need to be redone due to low speed.

Can you blame OP for having a melt down?
The OP began cursing out game.
The OP began cursing out developers.

Afterward, the OP began saying the game shouldn’t be a Speed only game.
At which point, Forum posters began responding to the OP.

- TVF told the OP he needs to join in, don’t care, or quit
- Veskasakstar told OP he is bad at game and should try playing candy crush.
- Deathbringer told OP speed is name of the game.

So you are correct Seedy.
It wasn’t you specifically who told the OP the game is Speed Only.
No one besides the OP used the term, but forum players did reinforce the idea by telling him the above.

Which is why I said what I said.
At this point, I just hope the OP doesn’t quit the game.

Hopefully, my words helped the OP calm down and realize he can still salvage the situation.
It will be sad to lose a potential teammate or friend.

Truth hurts. Speed is king in this game and has been for the last 7years. Don't see it changing so yeah join in or leave.

"PlayerJ;c-2446999" wrote:

"MasterSeedy;c-2446994" wrote:
@PlayerJ

The “OP Mind” is thinking the game is pure Speed Only.
You telling him the game is Speed Only does nothing except reinforce the Imbalance the OP believes exists

What? I never said the game is speed only. Not once. If you want to participate productively, you're going to have to have some idea of what other people are actually saying.

The OP came to the thread upset because his relic characters lost.
Forum players didn’t respond the best way.

After the OP shared his Ally code, the following happened:
- Salatius told the OP his MOD’s were poor due to no Speed.
- Wolverine told the OP 90% of his MOD’s need to be redone.
- Wolverine - than said Speed is King

At which point, the OP had a melt down.
OP already upset his characters lost and is being told 90% of his MOD’s need to be redone due to low speed.

Can you blame OP for having a melt down?
The OP began cursing out game.
The OP began cursing out developers.

Afterward, the OP began saying the game shouldn’t be a Speed only game.
At which point, Forum posters began responding to the OP.

- TVF told the OP he needs to join in, don’t care, or quit
- Veskasakstar told OP he is bad at game and should try playing candy crush.
- Deathbringer told OP speed is name of the game.

So you are correct Seedy.
It wasn’t you specifically who told the OP the game is Speed Only.
No one besides the OP used the term, but forum players did reinforce the idea by telling him the above.

Which is why I said what I said.
At this point, I just hope the OP doesn’t quit the game.

Hopefully, my words helped the OP calm down and realize he can still salvage the situation.
It will be sad to lose a potential teammate or friend.

So, that's great - if you're just chiming in to make OP feel better, stick to platitudes and niceties. If you want to actually help OP with the problem they're having - offer them actionable advice that actually helps. Telling people to double down on bad mods because there's five characters in the game that can use them doesn't help anyone - in particular the OP. Indeed, it could serve to make the game harder for people that believe you.

I never want to see people leave the game - even people that I think have bad takes on the forums - I hope everyone sticks around and supports the game.

So here are some resources - you would benefit from exploring these yourself as it's some of the best advice in the game regarding mods. Fatal and Xaereth both hang around in Kyber 1 but they've gone out of their way to make guides that are approachable to players of all levels, with mod farming strategies that are easy to understand and easy to implement. Fatal's Mods 101 guide has been mentioned several times here, for good reason. Check them out, they're very helpful.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOCVhaKSSdOpGKsmfHuA4dSIi7ghFv9hf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxev_eukz8Y&list=PLDskqmL-F0laG_7aMzgeqe5c17eSZdsqw&index=27

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"TVF;c-2447013" wrote:
mods

Maybe this can help clear up some of the confusion...