What counters Geonosians?

"chionophile;c-2141061" wrote:
You need EP's lead zeta too, otherwise you won't get the TM gains in between MMs.

It helps, but it’s not a necessity.

You get 100% TM on a finishing blow with Saber Throw, 100% TM on Force Crush, and Bonus Turns with every basic. All you need to do is be selective on your Saber Throw to make sure you get a KO, which isn’t a problem as you’ll have stacked up 8+ debuffs by the time MM expires.
EP’s lead zeta is mostly beneficial to the rest of the squad, as by the time MM is over, all other Sith/Empire will be at 100% TM. Vader doesn’t need it against Geo’s since they’re a 6 man squad. It’s just some extra oomph.

Also worth noting that I defeated G12 Geo’s on multiple occasions without EP zeta and just recently upgraded to it. Extremely helpful in Arena so I see your point there but against Geo’s the TM flow was fine without it and if OP wants to conserve a zeta and still have a counter to Geo’s, then I wouldn’t bother.

Safe beat, GG+magna and a random low droid, A, you get undersized win. Magna to stealth gg, low droid to die quick, aoe with gg, magna dies, aoe with gg, and thats game

Honestly, with how common a relic Geo squad is at this point, Traya isn't even a great counter anymore unless you also have the whole team at relics. You'll likely win, but you'll bleed a lot of banners while you wait for the Geos to chew themselves up off her leadership unless you have a very fast, very tanky Sion.

"CrownedPrince;c-2140593" wrote:
What zetas would be needed on an empire squad to beat the Geonosians? Also, can bounty hunters counter genos? Mando lead, greef, jango, bossk, boba

I’ve seen a few bounty hunter comps that can counter but most require decent relic investments. If you’re looking to use hunters and don’t mind the gear/relic investment, I currently use this squad to easily take out geos with decent relics. I don’t have mando and Greef high enough to try the squad you mentioned but it’s possible it could work.

As others have mentioned nightsisters and empire also work decently.

For those of you going for Rey, zFinn/Poe/Holdo/VSH/VSC is also a great Geo counter (they do probably need to be relic'd, though, hence the Rey caveat). Poe needs to be faster than GBA, but other than that, it's pretty light on mod reqs - everyone else can be in the 200-230 range. Potency and offense are probably more important than speed.

I guess I'll have to invest into my Empire squad, thanks all.

"Jarvind;c-2141259" wrote:
Honestly, with how common a relic Geo squad is at this point, Traya isn't even a great counter anymore unless you also have the whole team at relics. You'll likely win, but you'll bleed a lot of banners while you wait for the Geos to chew themselves up off her leadership unless you have a very fast, very tanky Sion.

You don’t really need Sion to be fast. Geos attack the lowest hp character. Mod Sion for crit avoidance and defense so he is tanky but has less hp than Traya. Then he has a virtual taunt.

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"Jarvind;c-2141259" wrote:
Honestly, with how common a relic Geo squad is at this point, Traya isn't even a great counter anymore unless you also have the whole team at relics. You'll likely win, but you'll bleed a lot of banners while you wait for the Geos to chew themselves up off her leadership unless you have a very fast, very tanky Sion.

But who using that counter would not do that to their Sion?

That's similar to the talk above about "not needing EP z lead", who the hell wouldn't z 1 of the most transformative z in the game? I mean, yes now if you had to lick between Vader lead and his Vader would be reasonable but having an insane TM train is gold

"Mephisto_style;c-2141550" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-2141259" wrote:
Honestly, with how common a relic Geo squad is at this point, Traya isn't even a great counter anymore unless you also have the whole team at relics. You'll likely win, but you'll bleed a lot of banners while you wait for the Geos to chew themselves up off her leadership unless you have a very fast, very tanky Sion.

But who using that counter would not do that to their Sion?

That's similar to the talk above about "not needing EP z lead", who the hell wouldn't z 1 of the most transformative z in the game? I mean, yes now if you had to lick between Vader lead and his Vader would be reasonable but having an insane TM train is gold

You’re missing the point of the thread. Nobody is discrediting Palp’s z lead. It’s fantastic. However, this thread is about a Geo counter, and for Geo’s, Palp’s zeta is not necessary and I can personally attest to this as I ran against Geo’s without Palp’s zeta for awhile.
Against other squads, it could be the difference between win or lose, but against Geo’s, no, because having 1 extra enemy (Brute) gives Vader an extra turn to completely cool down MM.

MM has a cooldown of 8 turns, so:
Force Crush > MM (Start Cooldown) > Saber Throw Brute (KO, CD 7) > Basic other five Geo’s (End MM, CD 2) > Force Crush (CD 1) > Saber Throw Brood (KO, CD 0) > MM and finish the rest.