Seriously! It got worse and worse...Fleet arena always was way to much randomized. One time you get completely destroyed by an opponent and the very next try against the same opponent using the same strategy you win without losing one single ship.But since the last update it feels the odds are not random anymore, but clearly against you.My observations over the last few days:- opponents ships evade damage twice as much as identical ships on my side- hounds tooth breach works 50%of the time for me and 90% of the time for the opponent (identical or lower level ship)- Damage dealt by opponents ships SIGNIFICANTLY higher (even when considering capital ship effects)- Occasionally multiple attacks and stun effects by opponent without apparent reason- Counter attacks of own ships not triggeredI could go on and on... at this point it is getting ridiculous. Fleet arena is making me want to quite the game for good.Please dear developers: Reduce at least the impact of chance. At this point I feel like i am just rolling a dice and have to get a 6 to win.

Odd - I have a very high success rate (lose maybe once a week), and that's usually only due to a horrible string of RNG. It helps to have ships that don't rely on chance (TL outside of Vader hello) as well as being able to force the AI into certain moves that give you an advantage.Weird "bugs" can often be attributed to not fully understanding all the factors at play.For instance, HT vs HT. If your Houndstooth goes first (you mentioned your ship being stronger), you're hitting the opposing HT while it still has a tenacity buff. By the time his ship goes, you have taunt and so lose the tenacity boost. Boom there's your Breach success rate.

"Vendi1983;c-1706727" wrote:Interesting thing I've noted: I stun Vader with Silencer, Biggs does his special to call an assist, Vader un-stuns and assists. Nowhere in Biggs'ability does it mention cleansing the assisting ally.Without more details, I can't tell you exactly what's happening, but turn order here would be Silencer - Vader - Biggs. The stun is just expiring.

Just defeated Geo trio under Tarkin within 60 seconds of payout. They're not as OP as many make them out to be. Just need to strategize.KRU stuns Sun Fac, Vader TL on him next. Biggs assist if able, if not basic, normally dead by the next move or two anyway. Move on from there.HT as a reinforcement as well. The full gamut of "OP/Broken Ships 2.0"

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Chowley
7 years ago
"TVF;c-1708678" wrote:
"CurryBeans;c-1708611" wrote:

I find silencers stun often doesn't work also when it should

The fact that it can be resisted doesn't mean it isn't working when it should.

I thought cant be resisted was in the skill text :o oh well
wesmay4367
7 years ago
"KyoO1234;c-1713722" wrote:
Well done EA! Making the already overpowered Genosian ships even more powerful (Sun Fac ignoring taunt anyone?!?!)

This is getting ridiculous.

Geonosian ships are my favorite opponent......usually a 1min win
KyoO1234
7 years ago
"Kokie;c-1714724" wrote:
"KyoO1234;c-1713722" wrote:
Well done EA! Making the already overpowered Genosian ships even more powerful (Sun Fac ignoring taunt anyone?!?!)

This is getting ridiculous.

Geonosian ships are my favorite opponent......usually a 1min win

What ships do you use?

And Sun Fac ignoring taunt when coming in as reinforcement is happening
Da_Bauers
New Spectator
7 years ago
Target Sun Fac with Silencer. Stun him. Vader hits him. Biggs assist attack. Usually dead or close to it. Tarkin's Ion Cannon kills him if he wasn't dead already. Go to next target, repeat. Call in KRCS, pass advantage to Kylo. Watch him one shot any ship on the field.
wesmay4367
7 years ago
"KyoO1234;c-1715833" wrote:
"Kokie;c-1714724" wrote:
"KyoO1234;c-1713722" wrote:
Well done EA! Making the already overpowered Genosian ships even more powerful (Sun Fac ignoring taunt anyone?!?!)

This is getting ridiculous.

Geonosian ships are my favorite opponent......usually a 1min win

What ships do you use?

And Sun Fac ignoring taunt when coming in as reinforcement is happening

I use ht, tie advance, slave 1 to open then xb, ig2000, cassian's uwing, ahsoka, and ghost for reinforcements....home one capital
KyoO1234
7 years ago
"NicWester;c-1716091" wrote:
"KyoO1234;c-1715833" wrote:
"Kokie;c-1714724" wrote:
"KyoO1234;c-1713722" wrote:
Well done EA! Making the already overpowered Genosian ships even more powerful (Sun Fac ignoring taunt anyone?!?!)

This is getting ridiculous.

Geonosian ships are my favorite opponent......usually a 1min win

What ships do you use?

And Sun Fac ignoring taunt when coming in as reinforcement is happening

Whose taunt are you talking about being ignored here?

Sun Fac bypasses (but not ignores!) any reactive taunt when his ship enters the field. The only one that comes to my mind immediately is Sun Fac's own taunt, so I'll use that for this example. Sun Fac checks if the active opponent is buffed or not at the start of the turn, if they are then he'll taunt and get his other benefits; if they aren't, nothing happens. The start of the turn is your capital ship's action and capital ships can't be buffed, so Sun Fac doesn't taunt and you're free to target whoever you want. Then you pick "Reinforce" as the capital ship's action, pick Sun Fac, he enters the board, you're still targeting whoever you want, and his reinforce-Stun triggers, then he gets whatever buff the capital ship gives (Advantage, Retribution, Crit Up, Valor, whatever), and THEN Sun Fac's turn starts and the Sun Fac already on the board checks for buffs.

You can check this yourself. Start with your Sun Fac on the board, and bring Biggs (with his reinforcement ability maxed out) out from reinforcements. The AI will always bring Sun Fac first, which will stun Biggs 100% of the time (the AI is forced to target him because he's taunting) and then their Sun Fac will use their special to stun your Sun Fac 100% of the time (again, the AI is forced to target him beause now HE'S taunting, but he wasn't taunting when the enemy capital ship took the Reinforce action).

Timing on this game is very much like Magic: the Gathering. An effect goes on the chain, and unless it's countered or fizzles it will always go off, even if a later effect makes the initial target invalid. Start of Turn --> Reinforce --> Reinforce ability --> start of turn (ie: Sun Fac's taunt) --> New ship takes action.

My HT taunts (with breach). Sun Fac comes in as reinforcement and ignores HT taunt targeting my KRS destroying it with the other Genosian ships assisting. Happened 3 times to me already.

But I am sure somebody will tell me I just didn’t understand how fleet arena works...
chionophobe
7 years ago
"KyoO1234;c-1716150" wrote:
"NicWester;c-1716091" wrote:
"KyoO1234;c-1715833" wrote:
"Kokie;c-1714724" wrote:
"KyoO1234;c-1713722" wrote:
Well done EA! Making the already overpowered Genosian ships even more powerful (Sun Fac ignoring taunt anyone?!?!)

This is getting ridiculous.

Geonosian ships are my favorite opponent......usually a 1min win

What ships do you use?

And Sun Fac ignoring taunt when coming in as reinforcement is happening

Whose taunt are you talking about being ignored here?

Sun Fac bypasses (but not ignores!) any reactive taunt when his ship enters the field. The only one that comes to my mind immediately is Sun Fac's own taunt, so I'll use that for this example. Sun Fac checks if the active opponent is buffed or not at the start of the turn, if they are then he'll taunt and get his other benefits; if they aren't, nothing happens. The start of the turn is your capital ship's action and capital ships can't be buffed, so Sun Fac doesn't taunt and you're free to target whoever you want. Then you pick "Reinforce" as the capital ship's action, pick Sun Fac, he enters the board, you're still targeting whoever you want, and his reinforce-Stun triggers, then he gets whatever buff the capital ship gives (Advantage, Retribution, Crit Up, Valor, whatever), and THEN Sun Fac's turn starts and the Sun Fac already on the board checks for buffs.

You can check this yourself. Start with your Sun Fac on the board, and bring Biggs (with his reinforcement ability maxed out) out from reinforcements. The AI will always bring Sun Fac first, which will stun Biggs 100% of the time (the AI is forced to target him because he's taunting) and then their Sun Fac will use their special to stun your Sun Fac 100% of the time (again, the AI is forced to target him beause now HE'S taunting, but he wasn't taunting when the enemy capital ship took the Reinforce action).

Timing on this game is very much like Magic: the Gathering. An effect goes on the chain, and unless it's countered or fizzles it will always go off, even if a later effect makes the initial target invalid. Start of Turn --> Reinforce --> Reinforce ability --> start of turn (ie: Sun Fac's taunt) --> New ship takes action.

My HT taunts (with breach). Sun Fac comes in as reinforcement and ignores HT taunt targeting my KRS destroying it with the other Genosian ships assisting. Happened 3 times to me already.

But I am sure somebody will tell me I just didn’t understand how fleet arena works...

It's not sun fac reinforcing. It's Geo Spy. Read his reinforcement
tvsfrink
7 years ago
"TVF;c-1713811" wrote:
"KyoO1234;c-1713722" wrote:
Well done EA! Making the already overpowered Genosian ships even more powerful (Sun Fac ignoring taunt anyone?!?!)

This is getting ridiculous.

Video citation needed.

Still waiting.
KyoO1234
7 years ago
That’s not what’s happening. Next time I’ll make a screenshot. There is actually a red taunt symbol appearing on my HT next to the green taunt.

And it’s definitely Sun Fac reinforcement (with geo spy and geo soldier present
DaPowerfulJedi
New Spectator
7 years ago
Geo Spy’s reinforcement ability inflicts a red taunt when he reinforces.