Which zeta for Commander Luke?

It binds all things

"TheReal_Mol_Eliza1;c-1231859" wrote:
It binds all things

This one is the most universally useful since it benefits Luke, and gives half benefits to all allies regardless of faction.

If you are definitely running a full/mostly full Rebel team in arena, and are still dealing with lots of Rex leads then Luke's lead is worth considering as well.

Don't listen to him with Luke's lead! That's 1 of the top WORSE zeta abilities in the game. It binds all things should be your 1st choice.

and the second zeta for his defense stance is pretty bad too

"JDIII;c-1232000" wrote:
Don't listen to him with Luke's lead! That's 1 of the top WORSE zeta abilities in the game. It binds all things should be your 1st choice.

Calling it one of the worst zetas in the game is a bit of a stretch when K2SO, Chewbacca and Luminara have zetas that wouldn't even be worthy of an omega upgrade. And "Learn Control" is also a strictly worse zeta than "Rebel Maneuvers"...

But "It Binds All Things" is quite clearly his best zeta.

"JDIII;c-1232000" wrote:
Don't listen to him with Luke's lead! That's 1 of the top WORSE zeta abilities in the game. It binds all things should be your 1st choice.

Very compelling argument you make. Providing no basis at all is a bold strategy.

Those who have his lead with a Zeta in my arena said it made formerly top tier Rex teams totally effortless to beat. They get several free turns worth of TM over the course of an arena match. Tenacity up becomes an anchor around their necks. What's bad about that? Keeping in mind of course that I didn't say it was the greatest thing ever. I only said it should be considered IF you run mostly Rebels, and IF you face lots of Rex leads. It binds all things is indisputably more universally useful.

I can give 15 reasons, I would've thought common sense was reason enough. But if you 3 can't figure it out, I will show. Just lmk

"JDIII;c-1232028" wrote:
I can give 15 reasons, I would've thought common sense was reason enough. But if you 3 can't figure it out, I will show. Just lmk

Still providing no facts, and now adding an implied insult. Nice.

R2 doing his AoE would give your entire Rebel team 25% TM against an opponent with tenacity up. Old Ben would double that on top of the TM he already gives. Luke would give your entire team 10% TM with every basic attack. This against the most common leader in the game... until Luke was added. I wonder why?

"JacenRoe;c-1231928" wrote:

"TheReal_Mol_Eliza1;c-1231859" wrote:
It binds all things

This one is the most universally useful since it benefits Luke, and gives half benefits to all allies regardless of faction.

If you are definitely running a full/mostly full Rebel team in arena, and are still dealing with lots of Rex leads then Luke's lead is worth considering as well.

In my shard, all of the zeta Luke leads fare no better against Rex leads than any other current set up. I know how the ability reads and in theory it should help stump Rex, but it merely helps you win some matches that you could do anyway without that zeta. I would put that leadership zeta as a very low priority. Raid Han zeta is significantly better, heck Old Ben and Leia zetas are better if you use those in your team of course.

"Veritasum;c-1232080" wrote:

"JacenRoe;c-1231928" wrote:

"TheReal_Mol_Eliza1;c-1231859" wrote:
It binds all things

This one is the most universally useful since it benefits Luke, and gives half benefits to all allies regardless of faction.

If you are definitely running a full/mostly full Rebel team in arena, and are still dealing with lots of Rex leads then Luke's lead is worth considering as well.

In my shard, all of the zeta Luke leads fare no better against Rex leads than any other current set up. I know how the ability reads and in theory it should help stump Rex, but it merely helps you win some matches that you could do anyway without that zeta. I would put that leadership zeta as a very low priority. Raid Han zeta is significantly better, heck Old Ben and Leia zetas are better if you use those in your team of course.

I agree that it is not priority over It binds all things. It is situationally useful, and I said as much. But it does perform well in the right team. And nearly every Zeta for every toon lets you win easier even though you could win without it. At least at the top of arena. And we weren't ranking Zetas for different toons. We were talking about Luke.

For the way I run him (in a mixed squad), it binds all things is first clearly. It provides a minor, but consistent TM boost to everyone.

But if I was running all Rebels, and two of them were Old Ben and R2, and I was in a Rex heavy arena server, then I would do his lead first. A total of 125% TM from R2, and 250% TM from Old Ben spread accross your team from 2 moves on top of Luke dishing out 10% TM from every resisted basic (double what It binds all things gives) is better in that situation.