Zader bug fix

"Ultra;c-1043164" wrote:
There is a bug that wasn't working as intended. People took advantage of it and are now want to keep all the rewards with a money back. Asking for a refund is like using an exploit without the consequences

You had lots of Pit Raids where you ranked much much higher than those in your guild that don't have a Zader and you should just consider that as a "refund".

Yes the bug was listed for quite some time and they didn't fix it the very second they knew about it but that's how bug fixes have always been in this game. Its like a To-do list that is worked on periodically.

Are you from EA or what..? What is your problem with Zader....? Not everyone is asking for a refund, but I'm sure they will be jumping up and down soon....
We all use Zader so nobody " ranked " higher than 10.3Mil and the ranking system, well that is for another day, who came first..? We all do..!
People have built up teams around Zader and would know the first thing about a Teebo,Rex,TFP, Phas QGJ team is..!
So start a poll on this one, it took a year to fix Teebo, take your time with this please..

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"jm21;c-1043178" wrote:
I don't really see the whole refund argument in this case. Everyone knew it was bugged in Rancor, I haven't seen anyone say it wasn't bugged/wasn't known about. So in essence people are complaining that they have been cheating the system, and are now upset that the cheat has been removed and want to be rewarded because of it. It isn't like the bug hurt players, it helped his ability.

Yes, in the alternate reality that you live in, everybody that plays this game checks these forums regularly, and thus knew zVader was bugged in Rancor.

In the real world, however, the majority of people don't, are probably unaware that there is a forum, and simply zetad Vader specifically because of his performance on the rancor, completely unaware that it was bugged.

I wanna focus on a future post zader bug fix. Are there any other viable rancor soloing shenanigans other than Vader?

"Oda_Kosan_Awa;c-1043171" wrote:
ROFL, raid rewards? I get **** most of the time, with or without Vader. Right now Vader is close to useless outside raid. Nerf him in raid, and it will be a wasted zeta

Well you get **** rewards most of the time so its not a big loss for you since its already a wasted zeta ;)

I've seen vids of Zader doing amazing in heroic AAT raids, you clearly aren't using your Zader correctly

"HorishBathens;c-1043187" wrote:

"jm21;c-1043178" wrote:
I don't really see the whole refund argument in this case. Everyone knew it was bugged in Rancor, I haven't seen anyone say it wasn't bugged/wasn't known about. So in essence people are complaining that they have been cheating the system, and are now upset that the cheat has been removed and want to be rewarded because of it. It isn't like the bug hurt players, it helped his ability.

Yes, in the alternate reality that you live in, everybody that plays this game checks these forums regularly, and thus knew zVader was bugged in Rancor.

In the real world, however, the majority of people don't, are probably unaware that there is a forum, and simply zetad Vader specifically because of his performance on the rancor, completely unaware that it was bugged.

How in the hell do you think they knew about his performance and abilities? They saw from guildmates, on YT, on Reddit, and on here. You're making out like many who have access to Zetas are clueless to their toons. Give it a rest.

LmAo with intended emphasis.

All the entitled whingeing about refunds is annoying. Probably the same situation exists for the godforsaken Assaj Ventress leadership.

Zader isn't being fixed. The raid is and ls/ds & cantina battles are being fixed.

I don't get the anti-player position by other players here. The company, who I think highly of, put out a busted product in this case. What company do you make purchases from and NOT expect them to take care of their customers by standing by their product?

I honestly didn't know he was still bugged. Maybe I am wrong but it didn't seem like public knowledge until now.

I don't want a refund. I like zader. I do hate when we use a toon for months and then they change it for the worse.

Good example would be in the early months. Bariss is for sale at a high price mind you. Very high for a new game. (Typical EA pricing, anyone who plays madden mobile would know this). Nonetheless, way overpowered in the arena so much that everyone wanted her. So people got her for the price. Then they nerfed her.

I prefer that if the toon outperforms what they expected that they leave it alone unless they notice it and fix it within the first month or less that it's is out.

The big difference between the Bariss refund and any of these other situations people keep complaining about with Vader is what is being changed.

In the case of Bariss the actual ability and ability description were changed. People bought it because they clicked the toon and saw "allies heal 20% hp when crit". The devs then changed it to "allies heal 20% hp when crit, while Bariss is active" after the fact. The actual ability changed - that is why there was a refund.

In the case of Vader, his ability has always said "Empire and Sith have a 50% chance to remove 20% TM". No part of that has been reworded, edited, or altered. Vader was released to grant 20% TM removal and will continue to do so. If the impending rancor fix resulted in his leader ability suddenly saying "empire and sith characters have a 50% chance to remove 10% TM" then I could see where people are coming from. But alas - you bought the zeta because 50% chance to remove 20% TM was cool. If you bought it because in some weird edge case it removed 80% TM on p4 of the rancor, that one is on you. No part of the ability suggested this was part of the purchasable kit.

Couldn't have put it better @Mewingloki