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Hero (Retired)

Re: Infinite Loop with Threepio & Chewie

Tenacity Down can't be resisted, both Chewie and CLS apply it, so you shouldn't count tm gain for that. Tenacity down won't help the other debuffs with Padme, but that teams increased tenacity is only with protection up. So it's going to come down to the assists vs. damage as to whether that's lost. If CLS puts buff immunity on before they gain protection up, then that person is not resisting. In any case, if you think they are not losing protection up due to the assists, then your best hope is a time out, just like if you ran this team against a lone Nest. This is WAI and makes Rebels a bad choice for Padme.

As for p3 Traya, you're probably looking at the second topple before she resists that much, and hopefully your team all survived until then, but you had better have putbin a burner team to eat isolate. But even so, Anakin + Nightsisters can solo p3 due to tm loop, and now SLKR can solo the whole raid because why not, so I doubt the devs care much at this point.

But in either case, nevermind this manufactured situation you have where the whole team starts at 100% tm. You can certainly have them all go first on this team due to the initial tm gain from Han's opener--this is how CLS teams beat Revan--but they don't all end up at 100% after that. Remember that Padme needs the protection up before they can resist, and that's not going to happen until at least the first assist. So yeah, maybe without crits they can't override the protection up (60% from the two assists less Chewie's bonus damage), but Han's initial expose went through (so actually down to 40% protection up now), and tenacity down still should go through, so that's 10% tm down from your calculations.

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EnigmaPotatoes
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@crzydroid It's not infinite, Padme teams do still gain TM and take turns to drop Prot Up.

Most of the TM gain is coming from 3PO's unique which adds expose on rebel's basic, with all the assists it generates a lot of TM.

CLS handily takes care of Padme with Chewpio on the team. I think everything here seems to be WAI.

Video for reference - https://youtu.be/R54Z0kMkBCc
admiralack
5 years ago
@crzydroidI never counted any TM gain from tenacity down. This is a complicated team and I started them all at 100% to simplify it and if the character that starts the cycle reaching 100% TM by the time the last character goes, that will have created a loop.

@EnigmaPotatoesThanks for the video. I agree that all the abilities are coded correctly and it's WAI, but it's not designed correctly as it goes counter to the devs position that they don't want infinite TM loops (see CG_TopHat's post here: https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/195609/update-on-the-finn-threepio-raid-interaction-resulting-finn-modifications). And while the particular move order that you used didn't create an infinite loop: The only turn that they got was from JKA and Padme's bonus turn. At 1:51 you break your TM loop by using 3PO basic instead of OMG!, which is where they start gaining TM again. Notice that Ahsoka and the enemy 3PO did not even get to full TM once in the whole 3 minute long match, and if you prioritized your TM gaining moves you could easily have frozen TM for the entire Padme team.