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crzydroid
Hero (Retired)
4 years ago

Re: Lord Vader's Speed Up given to DSUFU ignores his lead

I believe it's been stated that uniques apply before leadership abilities. So 303*1.25 + 40 = 418.75. So I think this is WAI.

(But surely LV went first?)

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  • AKAThePlaybook's avatar
    AKAThePlaybook
    Rising Vanguard
    4 years ago

    Correct, but it's unclear to me on whether a buff like Speed Up would factor changes to the character after it's applied. I'd think it would.

  • crzydroid's avatar
    crzydroid
    Hero (Retired)
    4 years ago

    Yeah, it's an interesting question, because there aren't that many buffs that apply at the start of an encounter. It seems like it's something that's not actively referencing speed, but evaluates the speed when applied. Which is probably fine in most other situations. 

    It begs the question of if a character got offense up, then got offense increased, if the offense up is still just adding based off of original offense. Or, if everything will get updated the next time something evaluates the offense stat, like dealing damage. 

  • AKAThePlaybook's avatar
    AKAThePlaybook
    Rising Vanguard
    4 years ago

    Yeah, that's why I ultimately felt that this thread is necessary. It's entirely possible that this is WAI, but without any existing example in the game mechanically to check as precedent, there's no way to know without a dev coming in and saying so.

    If it is WAI, it starts to pose some weird questions about stuff like how buffs interact with mechanics like stacking mastery.

  • EA_Gunner's avatar
    EA_Gunner
    Icon for EA QV Team rankEA QV Team
    4 years ago

    Your calculation is correct. The Order of Operations can be found HERE

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