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15 Years Later

Although The Sims 2 came out nearly 15 years ago, it still has a dedicated fanbase that insist that it’s the best game in the series. These diehards say that Sims 2 is more alive than its antecedents, and that as long as it continues to run on their computers, they’ll continue to play it.

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\"WarGreymon77;c-17054625\" wrote:
After the graphics rules etc., The Sims 2 runs fine for me, even with my 6 cores. The only issue I'm having is a long launch wait time. A full 4 minutes after I click play on the launcher. If I hadn't been watching it on Task Manager, I never would've known it was even launching. I have the OS (and the Sims 2 documents folder) on an SSD while the core game is on a traditional hard drive.


Bypass the launcher. 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It is the most unstable game I have using with.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"102","kudosSumWeight":1,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-05-11T15:00:14.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-05-11T15:00:14.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2358665":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2358665","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2358665":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:135415"},"id":"message:2358665","revisionNum":1,"uid":2358665,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-2-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2358639"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2358639"},"subject":"Re: 15 Years Later","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2358665"},"body":"
\"Simsophonique;c-17061494\" wrote:
I love the sims 2 , this game is not playable with cc. It is the most unstable game I have using with.


I hate that for you. I have over 13GBs of cc in TS2 these days, so yes, depeding on what it is, it can make it unstable. But I have to keep some side notes, (very few mods, though) of that dresser isn't really a dresser and was extracted from Fall Out or some other game, and it's not going to have the same bhavs as a regular dresser. I have a lot of content like that, and have to remember or make mental notes to myself that what I see in buymode isn't exactly what it is cloned from nor will it operate as what it looks like. I feel your pain, but one thing I don't use a lot of are the mods, other than a few to stop a few things. And I can really make my game unstable when I am filming them for a story and use cheats to make them do things I need them to do for the screen shot or video, which often causes jump bugs, but I know it was my fault for using move objects to turn them upside down etc., lol, I usually don't play those hoods I use for stories. ETA: My shared story or video stories, are like a studio set to me, I use it to build the sets, put the same look alike Sims in there and then I can do whatever, (and yes, they can get bugged by all that cheating and moveobjects etc. and all my crazy content extracted from other games) but my real Sims live in a world I can actually play without any problems.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2019-05-11T15:23:38.000+01:00","lastPublishTime":"2019-05-11T15:23:38.000+01:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2358667":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2358667","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2358667":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:135415"},"id":"message:2358667","revisionNum":1,"uid":2358667,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-2-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2358639"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2358639"},"subject":"Re: 15 Years Later","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2358667"},"body":"
\"Simsophonique;c-17063643\" wrote:
@Cinebar gimme your computer ahah because I have also a lot of gigas of cc as you and it stil crashes despite all the cares I do with my cc. I noticed recently that also the cc that kept the texte and the description of the cloned object makes the game not stable.
I also have custom houses I decorated I saved in s2pack they are not playable at all always crashy .
If the cheats codes makes the game crashes I swear I cannot
Anyways I don't play it anymore I am so angry with this game. I switched to ts4 and I kept my sims 3.


Lot corruption sometimes happens when you build a lot with stuff packs installed and then no longer have them installed. I only mention this because some people here don't actually have all packs installed. It can be loaded, and you can enter that lot but it will eventually crash.

Another reason lot corruption happens (crashes etc.) is the lot (if previously used) may contain left over data from Sims who lived there and those who visited. (Including NPCs, mailman, paperboy etc.) This can cause corruption and eventual crashes. There are mods to clean this up, however, it's been my experience those well known mods that clean that up only caused my game to implode (made it much worse).

One big thing that causes lot corruption (other than moving Sims to a new neighborhood which is a big fat no), is players may delete a cc object from their files before they remembered to go to that lot to sell it first off the lot, then they can delete the cc from the files. This is one of the top reasons lots crash or won't load. They would need to put back the custom Object in that case.

OFB changed a lot of game rules deep within the game. So, did Family Fun Stuff. Any lots built before those packs may be bugged and or cause crashes if people keep their original saved builds etc. and try to add them years later. It doesn't always happen, but if you ever notice base game lots built by Maxis are somewhat buggy to begin with, so best to only use lots you built after FFS and OFB.

It's been my experience not all lots should be downloaded and installed without using Sims2PkCleanInstaller, for many reasons, hidden hacks or cc that the creator didn't clean out before sharing the lot, and or NPCs in that lot. They may or may not be listed in the Clean Installer, but you load the lot and there is a strange Sim in the lot..get rid of the lot.

Bad lots in the lot bin (as described above) can be half the problem (even in the bin) of crashing.

A few years ago, I beat my head against the screen trying to find a piece of cc that was crashing my game at the same time every morning on my own built lot. It was driving me crazy. 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