Corruption and crashes

I'd start with using the NRaas Mod collection and adding another Mod to remove the NPC social workers that take children away as that's what corrupted three of my earlier saves before I started playing Modded.I've had pets,vehicles and household objects in sim's family trees after Malcolm Landgraab got taken by the social worker for failing school.One sim in that save had his toilet for his mum and a fridge for his dad while my toddler's mum was the family dog and the cat was his dad.His child aged sister became his daughter after the save got corrupted.

"Kita5399;c-16306568" wrote:
What is a mini-sim? I knew in the Sims 2 which Sims to avoid moving in, I'm not totally aware in this case I guess. I did have my Sim marry one of the proprietor sims, would that have been one to avoid?

Basically a tourist, from a WA vacation world or any world your sim has traveled to, who is visiting your homeworld. They are not complete copies of the sim. Foreign sims you invite to visit your sim's home (in the homeworld) are also mini-sims. Asking any of those sims to move in or marrying one into the family can cause corruption in your game. It's best to go to the foreign world to add the sim to the household and then return home. (Nothing wrong with tourists or foreign sims visiting, just with adding them to the household).

See the NRaas Terminology page (I don't think I can link directly to the mini-sim entry so look on the right side of the page for the mini-sim entry). The NRaas Traveler FAQ (near the end of this question) states:

• Foreign sims pulled into your world by Register or the game itself with no player involvement as random tourists are actually Mini-Sim copies of themselves, with the original full-fledged sims still back in their homeworlds. Asking or forcing a Mini-Sim to join your household or moving them into your current world will likely cause the sim to become damaged as a result of not having enough data to re-form the full version of themselves. Do not do this!
  
• If you have various NRaas mods with code that has been added to them to protect against the severe data loss that Mini-Sims present, you should be able to ask visiting sims whom you have invited over yourself to your actives' homeworld by MC or phone to move in successfully. Those mods would be Overwatch, ErrorTrap, Traveler, and RelationshipPanel. If you do not have these mods in play, asking or forcing visiting sims you have invited yourself to move into your currently being played world is risky -- some players have success with this, others find that the sims being moved in will become damaged.
  

When I marry or move in foreign sims I can usually use the 'ask to move in' option while in the foreign world. That works for Oasis Landing and the WA worlds. But not in University. When I want my active household to marry a University sim (which is fairly often in my games) I use MC's Add Sim command to add the sim to the household while at university, either right at the beginning of the term or just before leaving (and in that case I make sure the sim is actually no longer enrolled, if the sim is still enrolled for some reason then traveling back to the homeworld will fail).

Thank you for explaining. After a bad experience when WA first came out, I've made it a point to not move in anyone from those worlds. I do move in Sims from Uni, but I have been doing that the same way you have it seems. Ok, well I'll give the new save a go and see how far I get. :D

Are your play sessions very long? In new saves I can play hours at a time. But in my current game, which I've been playing for 9 months or so, I can play about 45 min and save once before I run into EC 12. It also has been crashing from time to time but I think that was CC related. A large part of my issues with my current game is the household size (24). Anyways, you might try cutting down how long you play at a time before saving, exiting to the desktop and relaunching, particularly if you've spend long sessions in CAS/Stylist/plan outfit/change appearance.

I'd be very concerned about seeing a sim with a boat (or an animal) as a parent. I have no idea how that happens. Portering to a new save seems a good way to go.

"Kita5399;d-934529" wrote:
...every sim day getting a message that the same two sims are stuck somewhere (MC reset does not seem to stop that), ...

To me that's a sign there is probably something wrong with the world. Assuming you are using Overwatch, I'd change the setting to Auto-reset stuck sims to false. You'll get a notification about stuck sims but OW won't reset them. Right click on the thumbnail of the stuck in in the notification and the camera should zoom to that sim's location. From there I can sometimes figure out the issue. Sometimes it's a fence (those hedge fences are always problematic for me), sometimes its the location of some object that I can move, sometimes I have no idea and just reset the lot and hope for the best, sometimes it's NPC sims getting stuck behind Late Night NPC doors. Or it could be a problem with the world design you can't do anything about. Once I attempt to address the issue I usually have to reset the sim manually.

I don't really know how to avoid corruption. I know of a few things to never do in TS3: use TCE to delete a sim, ask a mini-sim to move in, accept the free vacation opportunity. I've never seen a list of 'best practices' to avoid corruption in the game. Actually, I did find one once on this forum, but a lot of those suggestions turned out to be bogus.

Thank you both for the input! I save every two sim days, more often due to an event (age up, wedding, etc). I have started exiting the game and restarting it every hour or so, and that seems to help a bit. I had no idea about the social workers, so I'll put a stop to those, thanks!

"TreyNutz;c-16306414" wrote:

I don't really know how to avoid corruption. I know of a few things to never do in TS3: use TCE to delete a sim, ask a mini-sim to move in, accept the free vacation opportunity. I've never seen a list of 'best practices' to avoid corruption in the game. Actually, I did find one once on this forum, but a lot of those suggestions turned out to be bogus.

What is a mini-sim? I knew in the Sims 2 which Sims to avoid moving in, I'm not totally aware in this case I guess. I did have my Sim marry one of the proprietor sims, would that have been one to avoid?

I think where I'd start is determining what is getting corrupted, is the world/town, or the Sims.
Saving Sims to the library, then moving them to a new town brings good results.
I've done that before & it worked out well. I guess that's what you call porting ?
I've also learned the more building and changing things I do in a world, the larger it gets, and that opens it up for the possibility of corruption, so I try not to over do it, which can be hard for me because I love doing it. Its part reason why Sims 4 frustrates me, because I go to edit the world and remember it can't be done.
And I've learned that sometimes neither the world or the Sims are corrupted, a simple reset the world ( can be done with Nraas MC mod) will set things right.
With the Sims sometimes a simple moving them out of the house, and moving them back in does wonders.
For the Sims getting stuck, I usually pause the game, go to find where they are & edit that area if its a lot, by smoothing the terrain.
Isla Paradiso has a lot of port lots where Sims get stuck and it causes lag in the world, so I smooth those areas out.

I avoid save corruption by having a no social workers Mod installed and by also planning to add my playable default replacement social workers who will be in a social services household I add to my town.Children taken by these social workers will just be tranferred to another household and still remain in the game so no corruption from inproperly deleted sims from that end.