While creation of houses and the visual aspects of sims has greatly improved in 4, actually playing sims is not fun at all in sims 4. All sims act the same, they don't do anything interesting on their own. They have less traits and they have no real impact on their behaviour. Far less trait options too. I've really missed sims actually taking initiative, making friends and enemies on their own, choosing their own partner. Not taking hours to eat a simple meal. No load screens. Body hair for men. More and better supernaturals. Much more things to do still, despite both games pretty much having an equal amount of expansions by now. Sadly all sims 3 content is still rediculously overpriced, otherwise I'd get some stuff I didn't have before but it's not worth what they're asking for an old game. There's flaws too but still, sims 4 offered only a graphical update and better pathfinding. Everything else went backwards. Pretty much all problems that sims 3 has where carried over to sims 4. Like sims having a build in phone but they don't seem to obsess as much over it in sims 3, seems more to do with their traits. Or obsessing over the computer. But still, main thing I take away from it is that I made a group of eight sims to put through college. I gave them all varied personalities. And they mostly actually act like intended. In sims 4 no matter how you create your sim, they can only be a vapid hipster. Nothing else.

I agree with you. I love a lot of things in sims 4, but the way personality, or the lack of it, is handled somehow kills replayabillity. Like you said, sims act all the same.About 3 price, go to instant gaming. I bought a few packs there. It's legit and you can put the codes in ea site and they're immediately available in origin. Packs are 3 to 7 euros. I bought 3 eps and payed something like 11 euros.

I completely agree with you that all Sims basically act the same, and that traits have almost no bearing on how any Sim behaves. All any trait seems to do is give the Sim various buffs, which once again don't affect their behavior in any autonomous way.I've been playing Sims 4 exclusively lately, not because I like it more (since I like it less), but because Sims 3 no longer will play nicely on my system. I have a fairly high end system that I built myself, but it's getting older, and I can no longer afford to upgrade any of the parts in it. When I run Sims 3 with all expansions and store stuff (and since I BOUGHT it all, I'm certainly not going to only use part of it!), after about 15-30 minutes it crashes. Since it also takes about 15 minutes to load a game (once you include loading the save file itself), and about 5 minutes to save a game, the fact that the game crashes so often is abominable. Sims 4, otoh, takes maybe a minute to load, if that. Zoning only takes seconds, and compared to the loading of an entire game for Sims 3, that's nothing; to me, that's worth the bother of no longer having open worlds. (Even though I really DO miss open worlds.) I think I've had the game crash ONCE on me in the entire time I've been playing; Sims 3 crashes every single time I have ever played it. Sims 4 also only takes seconds to save; a huge difference on Sims 3. So the game is optimized much better than Sims 3 was, that's something in their favor.They also really improved the programming of the internal database to the game, making it so that having lots of stuff in your Sims' inventories no longer causes the game to seriously lag. (Even though it is a pita, since you absolutely cannot sort it in any manner.) Overall their programming has improved... but the loss of Sims' personalities is really a detriment to the game.They go on about how Sims in Sims 4 have "emotions"; no they don't, they have mood swings. Call it what it is, it's no more than that. Their emotions are too easy to control, just like the moodlet buffs in Sims 3. But at least in Sims 3, if you put your Sims on free will, if they had different traits they'd actually BEHAVE differently from one another. Not so in Sims 4.I really think that if they could ever change that - which I doubt, since I think it's core to their code - it could be a much better game than Sims 3. But it is, as I said, too core to the game, and is likely not ever going to be changed.

Sims 4 is more like sandbox you need to force your own stories and imagination on the sims. The sims are identically no matter what traits or “emotion” Sims 3 is more like a RPG, the skills have quests , wishes/whims are fun, expansion packs are huge (but store items are atrociously expensive). Overall sims 4 is a downgrade in terms of gameplay. But sims 3 is a piece of software junk which will only run on a super computer !

Lol I went back to TS2 like two days ago and SO much has happened! I played it raw too (no CC no mods) it was great! :D

I returned to sims 3, I don't think I can ever return to sims 4.

texxx78
5 years ago
I agree with you. I love a lot of things in sims 4, but the way personality, or the lack of it, is handled somehow kills replayabillity. Like you said, sims act all the same.
About 3 price, go to instant gaming. I bought a few packs there. It's legit and you can put the codes in ea site and they're immediately available in origin. Packs are 3 to 7 euros. I bought 3 eps and payed something like 11 euros.
MiaSkywalker1
New Novice
5 years ago
I completely agree with you that all Sims basically act the same, and that traits have almost no bearing on how any Sim behaves. All any trait seems to do is give the Sim various buffs, which once again don't affect their behavior in any autonomous way.

I've been playing Sims 4 exclusively lately, not because I like it more (since I like it less), but because Sims 3 no longer will play nicely on my system. I have a fairly high end system that I built myself, but it's getting older, and I can no longer afford to upgrade any of the parts in it. When I run Sims 3 with all expansions and store stuff (and since I BOUGHT it all, I'm certainly not going to only use part of it!), after about 15-30 minutes it crashes. Since it also takes about 15 minutes to load a game (once you include loading the save file itself), and about 5 minutes to save a game, the fact that the game crashes so often is abominable.

Sims 4, otoh, takes maybe a minute to load, if that. Zoning only takes seconds, and compared to the loading of an entire game for Sims 3, that's nothing; to me, that's worth the bother of no longer having open worlds. (Even though I really DO miss open worlds.) I think I've had the game crash ONCE on me in the entire time I've been playing; Sims 3 crashes every single time I have ever played it. Sims 4 also only takes seconds to save; a huge difference on Sims 3. So the game is optimized much better than Sims 3 was, that's something in their favor.

They also really improved the programming of the internal database to the game, making it so that having lots of stuff in your Sims' inventories no longer causes the game to seriously lag. (Even though it is a pita, since you absolutely cannot sort it in any manner.) Overall their programming has improved... but the loss of Sims' personalities is really a detriment to the game.

They go on about how Sims in Sims 4 have "emotions"; no they don't, they have mood swings. Call it what it is, it's no more than that. Their emotions are too easy to control, just like the moodlet buffs in Sims 3. But at least in Sims 3, if you put your Sims on free will, if they had different traits they'd actually BEHAVE differently from one another. Not so in Sims 4.

I really think that if they could ever change that - which I doubt, since I think it's core to their code - it could be a much better game than Sims 3. But it is, as I said, too core to the game, and is likely not ever going to be changed.
jimbbq1
5 years ago
Sims 4 is more like sandbox you need to force your own stories and imagination on the sims. The sims are identically no matter what traits or “emotion”

Sims 3 is more like a RPG, the skills have quests , wishes/whims are fun, expansion packs are huge (but store items are atrociously expensive).

Overall sims 4 is a downgrade in terms of gameplay. But sims 3 is a piece of software junk which will only run on a super computer !
Purrloin9
5 years ago
Smart decision.
simliciouss1
5 years ago
Lol I went back to TS2 like two days ago and SO much has happened! I played it raw too (no CC no mods) it was great! :D
OldeSimsFan
New Traveler
5 years ago
Really! The only time TS2 disappoints is when I mess something up so it's my own fault. I really like how the sims themselves will come up with things so that stories often write themselves.
bushfeak12
5 years ago
I have to disagree with you based on one simple fact: Sims4 runs.
I'm new to simming, and I started with sims 4. I always heard about how much better sims 3 was and how much I was missing, so I bought the base game and a few expansion packs that I thought I'd enjoy. And ultimately it was a waste of money because I can't get even the base game to run. I don't want to have to go through miles of troubleshooting after I've spent hours downloading the base game and expansion packs just to play the game.

Sims 3 may have been fun, but it's also notorious for being laggy, buggy, and just plain not working.

I'll always be happier playing a game that I can actually play. Plus, I really like the appearance of the sims, something apparently a lot of others were upset by. I enjoy the easy building, the CAS, the simple but fun challenges. I've been playing for a year now, and I still have plenty of things that I've yet to do. I do agree that compared to what people were able to do in Sims 3 (especially Pets and Supernatural), Sims 4 can be shallow. But I never have lag, I've never had the game crash on me, and I can change my gosh-darn hot keys to what I'd like.

I guess the moral of the story is: Let's take Sims 4 graphics and playability, mash it with the depth and creativity of Sims 3, and have an awesome Sims 5.
bshag4lv
Seasoned Adventurer
5 years ago
Tbh, I did not like the Sims 4 when it was released. I hated the hair mostly, hated that they smiled ALL THE TIME, played musical chairs, no CAS, I could go on listing how much different 4 was from 3. Then, surprisingly I began to like it, the multitasking, all the places sims can go, albeit via loading screen but even the hallowed Sims 2 had loading screens. I will always remember Graham had said this base game was a foundation by which all other sims' 4 releases will build on. By the time toddlers and vampires were released, I was into Sims 4 all the time.

It still runs even after all the mods and cc I have loaded. Nothing more I can say. B)
DaKapten
5 years ago
Even if sims 3 didn't work that well on my computer I still have good memories of all the stories and diversity in the game. But just like in real life, there are cons and pros for everything. I miss alot of features but I also don't.

Sims 4 has the sims 2 kinda charm, but unfortunely it's shallow in the long run.
I love all sims games. But in a very different and seperate ways.
I hope sims 5 will bring back more personality and depht.
netney52
New Spectator
5 years ago
Ages ago I did the same I went back to the sims 3 which I loved playing so much and I personally feel it was the best franchise in the game. However it had the opposite affect I couldn’t get back into the game and now much prefer playing sims 4. As for why I can’t say as I agree the sims 3 sims are more individual and have more of a personality. There was just too many aspects of sims 4 I missed from the different packs that I never appreciated until I played sims 3 again. However I do miss some aspects of sims 3 in 4.