I'm at my wit's end

"phoebebebe13;14564074" wrote:

"GaiaHypothesis;14563979" wrote:
Hmm that sounds like something is terribly wrong. My PC is not a dedicated gaming rig, at all, and even after I just re-installed the base and ALL EP's (new for me, I only had like 4 or 5 before) my game runs pretty well. I also have over 5gb of .package files, and I dont know how much sims3pack files. I run an HQ mod on HIGH sim, and high details. There is a small amount of lag when I first open (rendering the CC laden house) but definitely not when I use the camera, its slightly choppy running it at 3. I don't have lot detail on high though, that might be on med as well as some others.

I would either go here into the tech forum, or if you use NRAAs mods try over there.

You should be able to run this game well, it might just need some tinkering.

It effects mid to higher end dedicated video cards which you dont have. It effects some cards not others and is not specific to a particular series of card. It can effect both AMD and Nvidia I already helped op in tech an people at Nraas have also answered op in tech on a few issues. They also answered op here in this thread @igazor. This problem was caused a patch which EA has not fixed. There is no cure unless EA decides to fix the game and fix the patch that caused it. There are several people in tech who tried to find a fix but one has never been found so it is up to EA to fix it.

You are kidding me :(

That would explain so much!! I was playing IP with no stutter on all high settings, got a replacement PC and then I play Bridgeport with 2 EPs and the game stutters any time I move the camera. SO I wonder if I got the bug the 2nd time I downloaded the update. Nonetheless it's extremely annoying having stutter when the game is barely using the PC's power.

"jackjack_k;14564945" wrote:

"@xitneverendss;14564929" wrote:

"jackjack_k;14564881" wrote:
OP, I'm still playing the Sims 3 Pets on console instead.
Runs amazingly smooth, and has a lot of content from the Store and various EP's already :)

Until EA updates the game, I've tried everything and nothing is working.

OP didn't ask about TS3 pets for console...

"igazor;14564067" wrote:
I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

^^^this. I've come to terms with the fact that TS3 is never going to run perfectly, but it honestly runs pretty close to that for me so I don't have any problems with if. Like igazor said, there's going to be trade offs and workarounds and I guess you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.

Who said they did? I said that's what I've resorted to, to play.

That's my point exactly though lol. They are asking for advice on their game, THE SIMS 3 and you bring up TS3 Pets on console -___- This does not help the OP at all and I highly doubt they spent $2000 on a rig for a "last resort" which is not even the same game, no matter how many similarities there are.

"WaxingCrescent05;14565258" wrote:

"xitneverendss;14564929" wrote:

"jackjack_k;14564881" wrote:
OP, I'm still playing the Sims 3 Pets on console instead.
Runs amazingly smooth, and has a lot of content from the Store and various EP's already :)

Until EA updates the game, I've tried everything and nothing is working.

OP didn't ask about TS3 pets for console...

"igazor;14564067" wrote:
I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

^^^this. I've come to terms with the fact that TS3 is never going to run perfectly, but it honestly runs pretty close to that for me so I don't have any problems with if. Like igazor said, there's going to be trade offs and workarounds and I guess you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.

Thing is though, I'm never sure if how my game runs is "normal." I don't get consistent lag, just stutters, mostly when scrolling around. And I watch YouTube Simmers whose games are practically flawless and think: what the plum am I doing differently?

I don't think I've ever seen a YouTube Simmer with a completely flawless game though. They experience occasional lags, stutters, and glitches just like the rest of us.

NRAAS mods are a good starting point. Error Trap, Overwatch, and Mastercontroller will help to improve the stability and performance of your game.

"06Bon06;14565295" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;14564074" wrote:

"GaiaHypothesis;14563979" wrote:
Hmm that sounds like something is terribly wrong. My PC is not a dedicated gaming rig, at all, and even after I just re-installed the base and ALL EP's (new for me, I only had like 4 or 5 before) my game runs pretty well. I also have over 5gb of .package files, and I dont know how much sims3pack files. I run an HQ mod on HIGH sim, and high details. There is a small amount of lag when I first open (rendering the CC laden house) but definitely not when I use the camera, its slightly choppy running it at 3. I don't have lot detail on high though, that might be on med as well as some others.

I would either go here into the tech forum, or if you use NRAAs mods try over there.

You should be able to run this game well, it might just need some tinkering.

It effects mid to higher end dedicated video cards which you dont have. It effects some cards not others and is not specific to a particular series of card. It can effect both AMD and Nvidia I already helped op in tech an people at Nraas have also answered op in tech on a few issues. They also answered op here in this thread @igazor. This problem was caused a patch which EA has not fixed. There is no cure unless EA decides to fix the game and fix the patch that caused it. There are several people in tech who tried to find a fix but one has never been found so it is up to EA to fix it.

You are kidding me :(

That would explain so much!! I was playing IP with no stutter on all high settings, got a replacement PC and then I play Bridgeport with 2 EPs and the game stutters any time I move the camera. SO I wonder if I got the bug the 2nd time I downloaded the update. Nonetheless it's extremely annoying having stutter when the game is barely using the PC's power.

It effects some cards and not others. Its not card specific either. It will effect card that are accepted to play the game that are older now. Its effects some new ones too. My laptop 700 series card plays fine and my 900 series desktop gets the stutter. Both games are on the 1.67 superpatch

Its not the 1.69 patch. This happened a long time ago. I forget which patch. I know that @chesterbigbird got the stutter with their 600 series card and I think they mentioned to me a 500 series card too. Both on the games sgr files to play the game. It also effects their new 900 series card which is a newer card than the game .

"CandyCadet;14565270" wrote:
It's never your graphics card issue, it's your PC performance incompatibility with the game. You need to manually allow the game to use more than it's default setting
http://cloudwalkersims.tumblr.com/post/63397207980/if-you-have-more-than-4-gb-of-ram-you-can-give

That's an old post. It is explaining how to get your game to use up to 4GB of RAM. Since that post was made the game was patched for PCs and it now uses 4 GB of RAM by default. Since it is a 32 bit game it can't use more than 4 GB of RAM.

"WaxingCrescent05;14565351" wrote:

"Karritz;14565340" wrote:

"CandyCadet;14565270" wrote:
It's never your graphics card issue, it's your PC performance incompatibility with the game. You need to manually allow the game to use more than it's default setting
http://cloudwalkersims.tumblr.com/post/63397207980/if-you-have-more-than-4-gb-of-ram-you-can-give

That's an old post. It is explaining how to get your game to use up to 4GB of RAM. Since that post was made the game was patched for PCs and it now uses 4 GB of RAM by default. Since it is a 32 bit game it can't use more than 4 GB of RAM.

I'm not sure, I looked in the file that post tells you to and it said "memory: 2000000" for me and my game is fully patched. I changed it to 4 and didn't immediately notice a difference but it's hard to tell. I'll probably try 8 just to say I did.

Yes, the file said the same thing for me too before I changed it to 4. Figured if it might make my game run even faster, why not lol

As for stutter.. forget all about looking for a answers or finding a solution.. you will not find a solution.
Stutter when moving the camera is a very well known issue and has not been fixed, If you Google this issue you will even find posts and other forums mentioning it as far back as 2009.
I have had 3 graphics cards and 2 completely different computers have this issue. (GTX 560,GTX 670,GTX 970.)
Editing SGR files does nothing, and i have just about done everything to fix it. spent over 2 years looking for a solution.

"phoebebebe13;14565456" wrote:

"WaxingCrescent05;14565341" wrote:

"xitneverendss;14565314" wrote:

"jackjack_k;14564945" wrote:

"@xitneverendss;14564929" wrote:

"jackjack_k;14564881" wrote:
OP, I'm still playing the Sims 3 Pets on console instead.
Runs amazingly smooth, and has a lot of content from the Store and various EP's already :)

Until EA updates the game, I've tried everything and nothing is working.

OP didn't ask about TS3 pets for console...

"igazor;14564067" wrote:
I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

^^^this. I've come to terms with the fact that TS3 is never going to run perfectly, but it honestly runs pretty close to that for me so I don't have any problems with if. Like igazor said, there's going to be trade offs and workarounds and I guess you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.

Who said they did? I said that's what I've resorted to, to play.

That's my point exactly though lol. They are asking for advice on their game, THE SIMS 3 and you bring up TS3 Pets on console -___- This does not help the OP at all and I highly doubt they spent $2000 on a rig for a "last resort" which is not even the same game, no matter how many similarities there are.

"WaxingCrescent05;14565258" wrote:

"xitneverendss;14564929" wrote:

"jackjack_k;14564881" wrote:
OP, I'm still playing the Sims 3 Pets on console instead.
Runs amazingly smooth, and has a lot of content from the Store and various EP's already :)

Until EA updates the game, I've tried everything and nothing is working.

OP didn't ask about TS3 pets for console...

"igazor;14564067" wrote:
I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

^^^this. I've come to terms with the fact that TS3 is never going to run perfectly, but it honestly runs pretty close to that for me so I don't have any problems with if. Like igazor said, there's going to be trade offs and workarounds and I guess you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.

Thing is though, I'm never sure if how my game runs is "normal." I don't get consistent lag, just stutters, mostly when scrolling around. And I watch YouTube Simmers whose games are practically flawless and think: what the plum am I doing differently?

I don't think I've ever seen a YouTube Simmer with a completely flawless game though. They experience occasional lags, stutters, and glitches just like the rest of us.

NRAAS mods are a good starting point. Error Trap, Overwatch, and Mastercontroller will help to improve the stability and performance of your game.

I've tried all the mods and utilities you can think of, believe me. No dice. I had this same problem on my older PC with 8GB RAM, i7, Gtx 760 and I tried for AGES before just giving up. I bought all these games way back when I played on a laptop though, and I had to run on lowest settings anyway and was new to PC gaming. I guess either I didn't have the stutter or I didn't notice it.

All my games are on disc, and my original base game is from forever ago so I'm tempted to uninstall everything and just play that without patching just to test and confirm that it was a later patch. but I've uninstalled and reinstalled like five times within the last few weeks so I don't even know if it's worth it.

If you are at 1.67 patch do not uninstall your game. As of today you can not download anything from the store unless patched to 1.69 :s

I'm at patch 1.67 and I just went in to check after seeing this and I was able to dl several items from the store that I bought in the past just to see if I could. No problem at all.

"CandyCadet;14565270" wrote:
It's never your graphics card issue, it's your PC performance incompatibility with the game. You need to manually allow the game to use more than it's default setting
http://cloudwalkersims.tumblr.com/post/63397207980/if-you-have-more-than-4-gb-of-ram-you-can-give

Sorry @CandyCadet, but that advice you linked to is both old and flawed in every way possible. That's 20 GB (not 2 GB) you are seeing and changing on that screen, a theoretical upper limit that can never be reached on a 32-bit application anyway. Changing that theoretical upper limit is not going to help.

TS3 has been Large Address Aware (LAA) on Windows with no involvement needed from players since Patch 1.18. That's as far as it can go, 4 GB (actually more like ~3.7 GB) is it.

"phoebebebe13;14565501" wrote:

"bekkasan;14565483" wrote:

"phoebebebe13;14565456" wrote:

"WaxingCrescent05;14565341" wrote:

"xitneverendss;14565314" wrote:

"jackjack_k;14564945" wrote:

"@xitneverendss;14564929" wrote:

"jackjack_k;14564881" wrote:
OP, I'm still playing the Sims 3 Pets on console instead.
Runs amazingly smooth, and has a lot of content from the Store and various EP's already :)

Until EA updates the game, I've tried everything and nothing is working.

OP didn't ask about TS3 pets for console...

"igazor;14564067" wrote:
I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

^^^this. I've come to terms with the fact that TS3 is never going to run perfectly, but it honestly runs pretty close to that for me so I don't have any problems with if. Like igazor said, there's going to be trade offs and workarounds and I guess you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.

Who said they did? I said that's what I've resorted to, to play.

That's my point exactly though lol. They are asking for advice on their game, THE SIMS 3 and you bring up TS3 Pets on console -___- This does not help the OP at all and I highly doubt they spent $2000 on a rig for a "last resort" which is not even the same game, no matter how many similarities there are.

"WaxingCrescent05;14565258" wrote:

"xitneverendss;14564929" wrote:

"jackjack_k;14564881" wrote:
OP, I'm still playing the Sims 3 Pets on console instead.
Runs amazingly smooth, and has a lot of content from the Store and various EP's already :)

Until EA updates the game, I've tried everything and nothing is working.

OP didn't ask about TS3 pets for console...

"igazor;14564067" wrote:
I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

^^^this. I've come to terms with the fact that TS3 is never going to run perfectly, but it honestly runs pretty close to that for me so I don't have any problems with if. Like igazor said, there's going to be trade offs and workarounds and I guess you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.

Thing is though, I'm never sure if how my game runs is "normal." I don't get consistent lag, just stutters, mostly when scrolling around. And I watch YouTube Simmers whose games are practically flawless and think: what the plum am I doing differently?

I don't think I've ever seen a YouTube Simmer with a completely flawless game though. They experience occasional lags, stutters, and glitches just like the rest of us.

NRAAS mods are a good starting point. Error Trap, Overwatch, and Mastercontroller will help to improve the stability and performance of your game.

I've tried all the mods and utilities you can think of, believe me. No dice. I had this same problem on my older PC with 8GB RAM, i7, Gtx 760 and I tried for AGES before just giving up. I bought all these games way back when I played on a laptop though, and I had to run on lowest settings anyway and was new to PC gaming. I guess either I didn't have the stutter or I didn't notice it.

All my games are on disc, and my original base game is from forever ago so I'm tempted to uninstall everything and just play that without patching just to test and confirm that it was a later patch. but I've uninstalled and reinstalled like five times within the last few weeks so I don't even know if it's worth it.

If you are at 1.67 patch do not uninstall your game. As of today you can not download anything from the store unless patched to 1.69 :s

I'm at patch 1.67 and I just went in to check after seeing this and I was able to dl several items from the store that I bought in the past just to see if I could. No problem at all.

If you read that thread someone downloaded stuff from the store and is at 1.67 . They closed their game and when they restarted it all the store was missing.

Blunote00 also posted a pic where she had to update the game to download content

When people tried to download eps they had not installed after the 1.69 patch if they tried to go back to 1.67 origin uninstalled their eps. Looks like EA might be doing the same with the store.

Close your game and start it again and see if your download content is there that you just downloaded

ok....I closed launcher. I started game up with the exe as that is how I normally play and all my store content to the best of my knowledge is still there. (I own the store and probably 90% is installed.) The item I specifically downloaded was there. I didn't get any notification that I needed to patch up either. I've spent the last few days insuring that I had all items from the store and had no problems with dl'ing the few things that were missing. Most of those items were already installed in game, but missing from my storage folder for some reason. I just moved them from the downloaded folder to my storage folder to move over to external hard drive for safe keeping. I'm not gonna be a happy camper if they try to make us update to origin to get to store content or any other content that I bought and paid for. I will contact state attorney general to find out what my rights are.

I just did a test and started a brand new clean Sims 3 folder and installed one set that I just downloaded from the store.

I placed a few items from the set in a house then saved the game and exited Sims 3 altogether.

i cleared caches and relaunched Sims 3 and loaded the game.

All of the store items were still sitting on the front lawn.

The lawn before I saved
http://s5.postimg.org/7yyfd8tjb/Before_Save.jpg

(The rocking chair is from Supernatural EP)

The lawn after reopening the game.
http://s5.postimg.org/kcb9k5j7r/After_Save_And_Reload.jpg