I've been trying more or less constantly over the past week or two to get this game to a playable point. There is no reason I shouldn't be able to run a game that came out in 2009 at all max settings. And for the most part, I can. The problem comes when moving the camera. I don't get consistently low FPS, it'll just stutter and sometimes very briefly drop in FPS when I move the camera around. It gets a tiny bit better when I have High Detail Lots turned all the way down, but it doesn't go away enough to stop annoying me. And for gods sake I spent $2000 on my PC, no way I should have to do that. Regardless, at this point I just want to know if anybody runs this game without any lag, and if so, what the plum is your secret? Are there any graphics settings that just break your game or something when you have them up high?

http://murfeelee.tumblr.com/post/129798469311/how-to-make-your-game-run-smoother-solve-crashing

I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

"GaiaHypothesis;14563979" wrote:Hmm that sounds like something is terribly wrong. My PC is not a dedicated gaming rig, at all, and even after I just re-installed the base and ALL EP's (new for me, I only had like 4 or 5 before) my game runs pretty well. I also have over 5gb of .package files, and I dont know how much sims3pack files. I run an HQ mod on HIGH sim, and high details. There is a small amount of lag when I first open (rendering the CC laden house) but definitely not when I use the camera, its slightly choppy running it at 3. I don't have lot detail on high though, that might be on med as well as some others.I would either go here into the tech forum, or if you use NRAAs mods try over there. You should be able to run this game well, it might just need some tinkering. It effects mid to higher end dedicated video cards which you dont have. It effects some cards not others and is not specific to a particular series of card. It can effect both AMD and Nvidia I already helped op in tech an people at Nraas have also answered op in tech on a few issues. They also answered op here in this thread @igazor. This problem was caused a patch which EA has not fixed. There is no cure unless EA decides to fix the game and fix the patch that caused it. There are several people in tech who tried to find a fix but one has never been found so it is up to EA to fix it.

I have no lag in my game. The world I made is perfectly routed however and I have mods. I also have some quality cc aswell. There is a fps limiter I use that helps the game run more efficient and lowers my GPU temps. I forget the name of it but it helps a lot.

"@igazor;14564067" wrote:I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.Nope, they are still selling this game to new consumers and the $3000+ of DLC. It should work with current PC's and Mac's. Don't defend EA's shoddy business tactics. There are games older than The Sims 3 that are still on sale, and devs are still patching them to work on new Pc's. If the game had been off the shelves for 2 years, that would be fair enough. EA stopped optimizing cards in 2012. Two years before they even stopped development.

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JackJack_Morris
9 years ago
"@xitneverendss;14564929" wrote:
"jackjack_k;14564881" wrote:
OP, I'm still playing the Sims 3 Pets on console instead.
Runs amazingly smooth, and has a lot of content from the Store and various EP's already :)

Until EA updates the game, I've tried everything and nothing is working.

OP didn't ask about TS3 pets for console...

"igazor;14564067" wrote:
I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

^^^this. I've come to terms with the fact that TS3 is never going to run perfectly, but it honestly runs pretty close to that for me so I don't have any problems with if. Like igazor said, there's going to be trade offs and workarounds and I guess you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.

Who said they did? I said that's what I've resorted to, to play.
JackJack_Morris
9 years ago
"@phoebebebe13;14564913" wrote:
"jackjack_k;14564871" wrote:
"@igazor;14564067" wrote:
I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

Nope, they are still selling this game to new consumers and the $3000+ of DLC. It should work with current PC's and Mac's. Don't defend EA's shoddy business tactics.

There are games older than The Sims 3 that are still on sale, and devs are still patching them to work on new Pc's. If the game had been off the shelves for 2 years, that would be fair enough.

EA stopped optimizing cards in 2012. Two years before they even stopped development.

I have explained this to you already has nothing to do with newer cards. @chesterbigbird builds computers and has had this stutter on all their computers with different cards, some of their cards were not newer than the game and on the list of cards accepted for the game. This stutter issue has been around a long time. A patch cause the stutter and EA has not fixed it. Should they fix it ? YES since the game is still selling but I doubt very much we will get a fix so I will not defend EA for still selling a game they have not fixed. Telling people to use the 1.69 patch and not use all eps at once is just an excuse not to fix the game. There are many of us who have computers that can handle all eps and the game runs ( leaving out this stutter issue) fine. There are also many of us that can run the whole game and dont use mods. Yes we have some bugs and may use cheats to fix them but still dos not make the game unplayable . Not for me anway

add the Mac issue, people should not play on integrated graphics. The game does not do well on some integrated cards even pc not just mac. I dont know if EA will add the intel iris, it is still and integrated graphics card and should not be gamed on

Yeah, but there shouldn't be a need for people to change registry settings or get Nvdia to find the card etc. they should patch is so the game has it happen automatically.

I agree with what else you said though, and I'm worried they won't fix the frame rate drops that have just started in Sims 4 :(
fricklordmoon
9 years ago
"xitneverendss;14564929" wrote:
"jackjack_k;14564881" wrote:
OP, I'm still playing the Sims 3 Pets on console instead.
Runs amazingly smooth, and has a lot of content from the Store and various EP's already :)

Until EA updates the game, I've tried everything and nothing is working.

OP didn't ask about TS3 pets for console...

"igazor;14564067" wrote:
I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

^^^this. I've come to terms with the fact that TS3 is never going to run perfectly, but it honestly runs pretty close to that for me so I don't have any problems with if. Like igazor said, there's going to be trade offs and workarounds and I guess you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.

Thing is though, I'm never sure if how my game runs is "normal." I don't get consistent lag, just stutters, mostly when scrolling around. And I watch YouTube Simmers whose games are practically flawless and think: what the plum am I doing differently?
deadhaus123
9 years ago
"CandyCadet;14565270" wrote:
It's never your graphics card issue, it's your PC performance incompatibility with the game. You need to manually allow the game to use more than it's default setting
http://cloudwalkersims.tumblr.com/post/63397207980/if-you-have-more-than-4-gb-of-ram-you-can-give

awesome! My game already runs smooth at 2 GB of DDR 4 ram. I checked the settings like you suggested and yup it's set at 2GB. Bumping it up to 4 or 8 GB certainly would be a great option for some. Thanks for the info!
fricklordmoon
9 years ago
"xitneverendss;14565314" wrote:
"jackjack_k;14564945" wrote:
"@xitneverendss;14564929" wrote:
"jackjack_k;14564881" wrote:
OP, I'm still playing the Sims 3 Pets on console instead.
Runs amazingly smooth, and has a lot of content from the Store and various EP's already :)

Until EA updates the game, I've tried everything and nothing is working.

OP didn't ask about TS3 pets for console...

"igazor;14564067" wrote:
I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

^^^this. I've come to terms with the fact that TS3 is never going to run perfectly, but it honestly runs pretty close to that for me so I don't have any problems with if. Like igazor said, there's going to be trade offs and workarounds and I guess you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.

Who said they did? I said that's what I've resorted to, to play.

That's my point exactly though lol. They are asking for advice on their game, THE SIMS 3 and you bring up TS3 Pets on console -___- This does not help the OP at all and I highly doubt they spent $2000 on a rig for a "last resort" which is not even the same game, no matter how many similarities there are.

"WaxingCrescent05;14565258" wrote:
"xitneverendss;14564929" wrote:
"jackjack_k;14564881" wrote:
OP, I'm still playing the Sims 3 Pets on console instead.
Runs amazingly smooth, and has a lot of content from the Store and various EP's already :)

Until EA updates the game, I've tried everything and nothing is working.

OP didn't ask about TS3 pets for console...

"igazor;14564067" wrote:
I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

^^^this. I've come to terms with the fact that TS3 is never going to run perfectly, but it honestly runs pretty close to that for me so I don't have any problems with if. Like igazor said, there's going to be trade offs and workarounds and I guess you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.

Thing is though, I'm never sure if how my game runs is "normal." I don't get consistent lag, just stutters, mostly when scrolling around. And I watch YouTube Simmers whose games are practically flawless and think: what the plum am I doing differently?

I don't think I've ever seen a YouTube Simmer with a completely flawless game though. They experience occasional lags, stutters, and glitches just like the rest of us.

NRAAS mods are a good starting point. Error Trap, Overwatch, and Mastercontroller will help to improve the stability and performance of your game.

I've tried all the mods and utilities you can think of, believe me. No dice. I had this same problem on my older PC with 8GB RAM, i7, Gtx 760 and I tried for AGES before just giving up. I bought all these games way back when I played on a laptop though, and I had to run on lowest settings anyway and was new to PC gaming. I guess either I didn't have the stutter or I didn't notice it.

All my games are on disc, and my original base game is from forever ago so I'm tempted to uninstall everything and just play that without patching just to test and confirm that it was a later patch. but I've uninstalled and reinstalled like five times within the last few weeks so I don't even know if it's worth it.
karritz
Seasoned Rookie
9 years ago
"WaxingCrescent05;14565341" wrote:
"xitneverendss;14565314" wrote:
"jackjack_k;14564945" wrote:
"@xitneverendss;14564929" wrote:
"jackjack_k;14564881" wrote:
OP, I'm still playing the Sims 3 Pets on console instead.
Runs amazingly smooth, and has a lot of content from the Store and various EP's already :)

Until EA updates the game, I've tried everything and nothing is working.

OP didn't ask about TS3 pets for console...

"igazor;14564067" wrote:
I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

^^^this. I've come to terms with the fact that TS3 is never going to run perfectly, but it honestly runs pretty close to that for me so I don't have any problems with if. Like igazor said, there's going to be trade offs and workarounds and I guess you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.

Who said they did? I said that's what I've resorted to, to play.

That's my point exactly though lol. They are asking for advice on their game, THE SIMS 3 and you bring up TS3 Pets on console -___- This does not help the OP at all and I highly doubt they spent $2000 on a rig for a "last resort" which is not even the same game, no matter how many similarities there are.

"WaxingCrescent05;14565258" wrote:
"xitneverendss;14564929" wrote:
"jackjack_k;14564881" wrote:
OP, I'm still playing the Sims 3 Pets on console instead.
Runs amazingly smooth, and has a lot of content from the Store and various EP's already :)

Until EA updates the game, I've tried everything and nothing is working.

OP didn't ask about TS3 pets for console...

"igazor;14564067" wrote:
I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

^^^this. I've come to terms with the fact that TS3 is never going to run perfectly, but it honestly runs pretty close to that for me so I don't have any problems with if. Like igazor said, there's going to be trade offs and workarounds and I guess you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.

Thing is though, I'm never sure if how my game runs is "normal." I don't get consistent lag, just stutters, mostly when scrolling around. And I watch YouTube Simmers whose games are practically flawless and think: what the plum am I doing differently?

I don't think I've ever seen a YouTube Simmer with a completely flawless game though. They experience occasional lags, stutters, and glitches just like the rest of us.

NRAAS mods are a good starting point. Error Trap, Overwatch, and Mastercontroller will help to improve the stability and performance of your game.

I've tried all the mods and utilities you can think of, believe me. No dice. I had this same problem on my older PC with 8GB RAM, i7, Gtx 760 and I tried for AGES before just giving up. I bought all these games way back when I played on a laptop though, and I had to run on lowest settings anyway and was new to PC gaming. I guess either I didn't have the stutter or I didn't notice it.

All my games are on disc, and my original base game is from forever ago so I'm tempted to uninstall everything and just play that just to test and confirm that it was a later patch. but I've uninstalled and reinstalled like five times within the last few weeks so I don't even know if it's worth it.

I think if you have this stutter you will continue to have it as I've seen people who build their own computers and who are experts in getting computers to run properly with this stutter and try for months to get rid of it and had no success. It seems to be something you have or you don't have it. The best you seem to be able to hope for is to learn to work around it.
fricklordmoon
9 years ago
"Karritz;14565340" wrote:
"CandyCadet;14565270" wrote:
It's never your graphics card issue, it's your PC performance incompatibility with the game. You need to manually allow the game to use more than it's default setting
http://cloudwalkersims.tumblr.com/post/63397207980/if-you-have-more-than-4-gb-of-ram-you-can-give

That's an old post. It is explaining how to get your game to use up to 4GB of RAM. Since that post was made the game was patched for PCs and it now uses 4 GB of RAM by default. Since it is a 32 bit game it can't use more than 4 GB of RAM.

I'm not sure, I looked in the file that post tells you to and it said "memory: 2000000" for me and my game is fully patched. I changed it to 4 and didn't immediately notice a difference but it's hard to tell. I'll probably try 8 just to say I did.
BGH22
9 years ago
"Karritz;14565345" wrote:
"WaxingCrescent05;14565341" wrote:
"xitneverendss;14565314" wrote:
"jackjack_k;14564945" wrote:
"@xitneverendss;14564929" wrote:
"jackjack_k;14564881" wrote:
OP, I'm still playing the Sims 3 Pets on console instead.
Runs amazingly smooth, and has a lot of content from the Store and various EP's already :)

Until EA updates the game, I've tried everything and nothing is working.

OP didn't ask about TS3 pets for console...

"igazor;14564067" wrote:
I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

^^^this. I've come to terms with the fact that TS3 is never going to run perfectly, but it honestly runs pretty close to that for me so I don't have any problems with if. Like igazor said, there's going to be trade offs and workarounds and I guess you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.

Who said they did? I said that's what I've resorted to, to play.

That's my point exactly though lol. They are asking for advice on their game, THE SIMS 3 and you bring up TS3 Pets on console -___- This does not help the OP at all and I highly doubt they spent $2000 on a rig for a "last resort" which is not even the same game, no matter how many similarities there are.

"WaxingCrescent05;14565258" wrote:
"xitneverendss;14564929" wrote:
"jackjack_k;14564881" wrote:
OP, I'm still playing the Sims 3 Pets on console instead.
Runs amazingly smooth, and has a lot of content from the Store and various EP's already :)

Until EA updates the game, I've tried everything and nothing is working.

OP didn't ask about TS3 pets for console...

"igazor;14564067" wrote:
I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

^^^this. I've come to terms with the fact that TS3 is never going to run perfectly, but it honestly runs pretty close to that for me so I don't have any problems with if. Like igazor said, there's going to be trade offs and workarounds and I guess you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.

Thing is though, I'm never sure if how my game runs is "normal." I don't get consistent lag, just stutters, mostly when scrolling around. And I watch YouTube Simmers whose games are practically flawless and think: what the plum am I doing differently?

I don't think I've ever seen a YouTube Simmer with a completely flawless game though. They experience occasional lags, stutters, and glitches just like the rest of us.

NRAAS mods are a good starting point. Error Trap, Overwatch, and Mastercontroller will help to improve the stability and performance of your game.

I've tried all the mods and utilities you can think of, believe me. No dice. I had this same problem on my older PC with 8GB RAM, i7, Gtx 760 and I tried for AGES before just giving up. I bought all these games way back when I played on a laptop though, and I had to run on lowest settings anyway and was new to PC gaming. I guess either I didn't have the stutter or I didn't notice it.

All my games are on disc, and my original base game is from forever ago so I'm tempted to uninstall everything and just play that just to test and confirm that it was a later patch. but I've uninstalled and reinstalled like five times within the last few weeks so I don't even know if it's worth it.

I think if you have this stutter you will continue to have it as I've seen people who build their own computers and who are experts in getting computers to run properly with this stutter and try for months to get rid of it and had no success. It seems to be something you have or you don't have it. The best you seem to be able to hope for is to learn to work around it.

Chester has had this issue with 3 different computers and we know chester knows what she is doing. She told me she tried everything and could not find a cure
karritz
Seasoned Rookie
9 years ago
You can see what memory your game is using by launching Task Manager. You can get more info if you go to Task Manager performance page and click the Resource Monitor button. My game is using 4 GB and I've never changed anything to make it use more memory.
BGH22
9 years ago
"WaxingCrescent05;14565341" wrote:
"xitneverendss;14565314" wrote:
"jackjack_k;14564945" wrote:
"@xitneverendss;14564929" wrote:
"jackjack_k;14564881" wrote:
OP, I'm still playing the Sims 3 Pets on console instead.
Runs amazingly smooth, and has a lot of content from the Store and various EP's already :)

Until EA updates the game, I've tried everything and nothing is working.

OP didn't ask about TS3 pets for console...

"igazor;14564067" wrote:
I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

^^^this. I've come to terms with the fact that TS3 is never going to run perfectly, but it honestly runs pretty close to that for me so I don't have any problems with if. Like igazor said, there's going to be trade offs and workarounds and I guess you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.

Who said they did? I said that's what I've resorted to, to play.

That's my point exactly though lol. They are asking for advice on their game, THE SIMS 3 and you bring up TS3 Pets on console -___- This does not help the OP at all and I highly doubt they spent $2000 on a rig for a "last resort" which is not even the same game, no matter how many similarities there are.

"WaxingCrescent05;14565258" wrote:
"xitneverendss;14564929" wrote:
"jackjack_k;14564881" wrote:
OP, I'm still playing the Sims 3 Pets on console instead.
Runs amazingly smooth, and has a lot of content from the Store and various EP's already :)

Until EA updates the game, I've tried everything and nothing is working.

OP didn't ask about TS3 pets for console...

"igazor;14564067" wrote:
I think the OP's expectations for how smoothly a 2009 game that has been out of development for over two years will run on a higher end 2016 (or something similar) computer and graphics card are a bit high. It should be playable, it's not going to be perfect, and there are going to be tradeoffs and workarounds needed.

^^^this. I've come to terms with the fact that TS3 is never going to run perfectly, but it honestly runs pretty close to that for me so I don't have any problems with if. Like igazor said, there's going to be trade offs and workarounds and I guess you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.

Thing is though, I'm never sure if how my game runs is "normal." I don't get consistent lag, just stutters, mostly when scrolling around. And I watch YouTube Simmers whose games are practically flawless and think: what the plum am I doing differently?

I don't think I've ever seen a YouTube Simmer with a completely flawless game though. They experience occasional lags, stutters, and glitches just like the rest of us.

NRAAS mods are a good starting point. Error Trap, Overwatch, and Mastercontroller will help to improve the stability and performance of your game.

I've tried all the mods and utilities you can think of, believe me. No dice. I had this same problem on my older PC with 8GB RAM, i7, Gtx 760 and I tried for AGES before just giving up. I bought all these games way back when I played on a laptop though, and I had to run on lowest settings anyway and was new to PC gaming. I guess either I didn't have the stutter or I didn't notice it.

All my games are on disc, and my original base game is from forever ago so I'm tempted to uninstall everything and just play that without patching just to test and confirm that it was a later patch. but I've uninstalled and reinstalled like five times within the last few weeks so I don't even know if it's worth it.

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