@mw1525 For someone who doesn't want to debate you sure put up a lot of arguments against my opinion. I haven't followed all the links you have provided because I really don't want to debate because that would require more caring than I feel about this situation. I merely responded with my opinion because it was you who tagged me first. From what I did read of your long response I still hold that my opinion cannot be discounted because the examples of simmers' experiences you have provided me are filtered through their own perception of what is happening. CWaddell's experience is very easy to explain. Changing a sims traits does not remove all the behaviours of previous traits as I have experienced in my own game but since a Master Controller reset will remedy this situation I can only assume it is just residual data that a CAS trait change doesn't remove.