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- Ok, thank you for explaining about the G3 vs. Inspiron. So I think I’m going to order the G3 this weekend. You think I should get that one right? Or are there any other models that I should look at?
- @havanesefluff I do think the G3 is significantly better, yes. I looked again, just to make sure I didn't miss any other good options, and I saw one more laptop that's similar; maybe it dropped in price for the weekend:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-g5-15-6-gaming-laptop-144hz-amd-ryzen-7-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-5600m-512gb-solid-state-drive-grey/6409421.p?skuId=6409421
But it's $50 more for a slightly slower graphics card and a significantly faster processor (plus the 512 GB hard drive). Since you don't care about extra processor power, the G3 from before is still the better option for you.
Dell has a few lines of gaming laptops, but the G series (G3/G5/G7) is the only one with what might be considered normal pricing; Alienware and XPS are much more expensive for the same hardware. So that's the category where you'll find the good options, and from everything I saw, the G3 from before is the best choice, followed by the one above. - Thank you so much for all the information, I’m going on Best Buy and ordering the G3 right now! :)
- Hi, sorry again. I'm very indecisive and decided to sleep on it. This morning i went on Best Buy's website and saw this computer. It cost more than I wanted to spend, but it does have 1TB SSD and is 2-in-1 with a touchscreen which I like. It looks like a higher end Inspiron but it doesn't have the integrated graphics, it looks like it has discrete. Do you think it's worth the money? or should I stick with the G3? Also, Best Buy has an open box G3 available 10 miles from my house and is $90 cheaper, if I got the G3 should I get the open box version or should I not risk it and buy it brand new. It does say that it's in excellent condition and is Geek Squad Certified but I still feel a little weird about that. Here's the link to the computer: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-inspiron-2-in-1-15-6-4k-ultrahd-touch-laptop-intel-core-i7-16gb-ram-1tb-ssd-32gb-intel-optane-nvidia-mx330-black/6409060.p?skuId=6409060&ref=212&loc=1&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1260576&gclid=CjwKCAjwsO_4BRBBEiwAyagRTdy_GrmvgS8md-6ANBMS546MI9lVefLL7HS6k7HGcL59XkfImeQR7hoC8DEQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
- @havanesefluff You don't need to apologize for being indecisive. After all, it's a lot of money to spend. The more expensive Inspiron is still an Inspiron, with some of the limitations (especially cooling) of the others. Its dedicated graphics card would help, for sure. But an MX330 is really about the slowest dedicated card of the current generation. A 1650 is something like 300% faster in gaming. A 1050 ti mobile, which was released three years ago and has during that time been the de facto minimum requirement for running all Sims 3 packs together on ultra settings, is over 200% faster.
The question, when running Sims 3 on a lower-end graphics card or chip, is whether lowering the settings will be enough to compensate for the slower card. From what I've seen, there's not a lot of data on the MX330 specifically, but slightly older MX cards have definitely struggled to handle the game, even with only a few expansions installed. But there are probably also people who run some EPs, or maybe most of them, well enough to not complain.
I know this isn't the definitive answer you're looking for, but the thing is, you never really know for sure how well a given computer will perform until it's in your hands and you can test. There will always be a bit of variation from one machine to the next, even within the same product line, and more fluctuation when you start to factor in drivers and other internal settings that can affect how the hardware performs. Especially with hardware that's already borderline (or lower) for what you want to do, it's really difficult to predict exactly where the system will fall on the spectrum.
Additionally, individual players have different tolerances for low framerates and general mediocre performance. Some find 30 fps and choppiness when moving the camera to be a slight inconvenience; others find the game much less enjoyable; some get headaches and can't really play at all like that. That's something no one else can predict; the only way to find out is to play for yourself.
For people who already have a weaker system, of course it's fine to try out the game and see if they can make it playable. But you're in a situation where you can get a much stronger laptop, one where as long as the product itself isn't defective, you shouldn't run into any issues with Sims 3. On the other hand, maybe the other features of the Inspiron are worth the risk that you won't be able to play TS3 the way you want. That's your call; I can only tell you what might happen either way. And for all I know, this particular Inspiron would run the game perfectly fine for your needs. But you won't find out whether that's true until you've already spent your money.
As for the open-box model, I wouldn't normally get a laptop that wasn't new. But since this one is certified (not to mention still under warranty), and backed up by a physical store that would presumably accept returns if the product was immediately defective, it's much less of a risk. For $90, it's definitely worth considering. I'd say it's a close call, although if the money isn't critically important, I personally would still go with the new option. - Thank you so much for the explanation! You were much more helpful than the people at Best Buy! :) The sale ends tomorrow so I’m going to order it!
- Hi all, sorry I can't start a new thread as I'm a new member but wondered if anyone could give some advice on a desktop computer I am looking to buy? It's £1400 (I know, sob) but I LOVE The Sims 3 and I've been battling for YEARS to get it to work on Mac (again, ha ha ha, EA why did you do us Mac players like that?!).
I've given a rough idea of the specs below, but any thoughts would be most welcome! I have read that some people running TS3 are having issues with getting newer graphics cards to work. Assuming this is fixable? I don't want to make a huge investment to find that TS3 doesn't work!
I think this should be more than capable, but I'm hoping it doesn't upset TS3 being a newer system. I'll probably download TS4 too and I'm keen on Planet Coaster which I think is even more demanding.
- Intel® Core™ i7-10700 Processor (2.9 GHz / 4.8 GHz)
- RAM: 16 GB DDR4 (2400 MHz)
- Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super (8GB)
- Storage: 2 TB HDD (7200 rpm), 512 GB SSD
If anyone could flag any known issues with the above I'd hugely appreciate it! It's the graphics card/speed of processor I'm most concerned about in terms of compatibility.
Thanks all! - @m16857 - The Mac version of the game works on suitable hardware provided one's operating system is Mojave or lower; we're all waiting for the new update EA is still working on that will make it work on Catalina to see what it does for us. But "works" and "works well" are two very different things and the current version is still held back by its draconian 2 GB RAM usage limitation that was overcome on Windows many years ago with Patch 1.17.
The PC specs you have listed are way over the top for what TS3 can possibly use and the entire game (all EPs) should run fine, or as fine as it's ever going to, on it. I'm not familiar with Planet Coaster, it does have higher basic requirements than either Sims game, but looks to me like that should be more than fine as well. - @igazor Thanks so much for your speedy reply! I'm on Mojave at the moment on a 6yr old Macbook Pro but I'm battling all the typical bug bears (no disc errors, ridiculous lagging, the lowest graphic settings, poor laptop sounding like it's about to take off, etc). It's certainly not equipped for games but it's all I've had for a very long while.
After making my way through The Sims franchise over the years I'd love to finally experience smooth and seamless gameplay with both TS4 and TS3 (well, as much as we can, anyhow!). I had TS3 sussed a number of years ago on my Mac after about a week of patching, troubleshooting and generally wanting to pull my hair out, and even now I regret removing it all for TS4 to this very day! That said, it wasn't the experience I had hoped for.
Oh for sure, the specs are waaaay above and beyond, but to be honest, I'd also like to see it as an investment for the future series (hoping TS5 will be the TS3 re-vamp we're all dreaming of!). Planet Coaster is something else I'm interested in playing and is apparently a total monster when it comes to hardware demands. I do like TS4, and again, I'd love to play it all seamlessly with all packs and pretty much a free reign on mods. The temperamental TS3 does have a special place in my heart though!
Alternatively, if we're thinking of achieving a smooth TS4 experience (on max graphics) and softening the blow to my wallet, would something like the below suffice?
-Intel® Core™ i5-10400F Processor (2.9 GHz / 4.3 GHz)
- RAM: 8 GB DDR4 (2400 MHz)
- Graphics card (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650)
- Storage: 1 TB HDD (7200 rpm), 256 GB SSD
Two questions really: Would there be a vast difference in TS4/3 performance between an i5 and an i7 processor? And if I'm wanting to install mods, CC and all expansions for both games, I'm assuming I'd need more than 256GB SSD? I can't remember where I read it, but I've seen that the series tends to work best when installed on SSD rather than HHD.
Thanks again for your help, I really appreciate it! :) - i5 vs. i7 - This used to make a huge difference, but today players wouldn't really be able to tell much difference between a higher end i5 and an i7, all other things being equal. Experiences with other games, especially those that can use more cores, will vary.
RAM - Technically no one needs more than 8 GB to run TS3 or TS4, but where having 12 GB or more comes in handy is so that one can run a web browser or other programs alongside of a paused game without having to worry about running out of resources. Of course we can always add more RAM later, but this isn't where I would be cutting costs unless I really had to, if I were shopping for a new computer today.
Graphics Card - TS3 would probably get some small benefit out of a GTX 1660/1660 Ti over a 1650. Can't really speak for other games, but if they can use more vRAM than TS3 can (and at just 800 MB that isn't setting the bar very high) then they too should benefit.
SSD - TS3 benefits from being installed on and having its user game folder on an SSD in that starting up, saving, CAS and Build/Buy category loading, and anything involving caching should run noticeably faster. Actual gameplay won't be much different. TS4 does not get this benefit from an SSD as it is programmed so differently. Experiences with other games will vary.
Although 256 GB should be fine, it's also easy to end up constantly working to maintain enough free space especially if one maintains and keeps feeding large CC collections. Even with the larger secondary HDD, I would find at least 512 GB to work with to be less limiting.
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