[ARCHIVED] Orange/Green Exclamation signs over lots / Houses disappear

I have before and after versions of a single save file with this bug to share. Here is the version of the save file before the bug:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1blp6Lb7bT4UgzPn-Yz-XTg80FzDnUYJa/view?usp=drive_link

. . . and the version after the bug:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1z_br4BTEbRE-ZzBQWhIvVsqMDxjIkNmw/view?usp=drive_link

Unfortunately, I did a very great deal of converting formerly-fake apartment buildings to actual rental residential lots before I discovered the bug, because it affected Willow Creek and I was going through all the worlds in order, so I did not return to the Willow Creek map screen and discover the bug until I had more than 80+ total units in my save file. Consequently, I couldn't say for sure when the bug occurred or how many units in total I had when the corruption started. But regardless, if 100 units is the per-save-file cap (and I have respected that; I have not been using any mods that remove that limit), then we ought to be able to have 100 units without the save file corrupting. I hope this before-and-after comparison can help the devs find and fix the cause of this bug.

I suspect this is going to start becoming more visible as a problem for other players. I also hope the devs resolve the issue asap as i can see the potential with this expansion pack for players who like to build townhouses and apartments.

I'm doing more testing and noticing a few things about my save. FYI...my testing is being done on a save that has no active 'orange or green' lot errors in any of the worlds.

1. Play a household in live mode (i.e play as a household in a normal residential lot)

2. Whilst playing the household enter buy/build mode

3. Change the lot type to Residential Rental and start creating the units you want whilst in that current buy/build mode (or replace the lot with a pre-made residential rental lot from your library)

4. The game will make the current household the property owner and will default them to take residency of the first residential unit (when you go back to manage world screen you will see this. You can evict them if you want the unit empty etc).

5. When you exit back to world map view do a quick check across all your worlds to see which random lots have been affected with Orange or Green lot errors

6. Go back to your household in live mode

7. Visit one of the affected lots and see if the lot operates as normal (i.e it loads up as a bar if you had it set as that before)

8. If one of the affected lots is residential, check that you can play as that household without any issues. Also check that you can visit that lot with a different household.

9. You should be able to change any of the affected lots to 'residential rental' (note this is only if you are annoyed with seeing the orange and green lot errors and you are happy to turn a residential lot into a residential rental) and this will remove the orange and green lot error for that affected lot. However changing the lot type to anything else does not remove the orange or green lot error. E.g If you tried to change the affected lot back to a bar it will still show up with orange or green lot error when in world view on the map. 

10. Willow Creek seems to be most affected world in my save...in fact its the only world affected world that i've noticed so far when following the above process (i.e changing a lot to residential rental from live mode when playing as a household).

I'm still testing the game (i.e adding more rental units, currently have 30 combined in the my save) and by no means is this a fix of any kind but thought i would share my testing results so far..

In the case of my daughter's saved game, the first world that is affected is Magnolia Promenade and all the lots she has there are businesses, then it happens to Oasis Springs and then to Willow Creek and continues to Windenburg.

Last night I was doing tests with the saved game and I also noticed what you mentioned, I even realize that at least in my daughter's game this error behaves in an order, it does not do it randomly but rather follows an order specifically breaking lots, first businesses in Magnolia then affecting a specific area in Oasis where there are houses and community lots and so on continuously.

Yea i think you might be right with the behaviour happening in order. I think with mine its Willow Creek first.

After creating 40+ units across my entire save (max of 18 units on 1 residential rental lot) i checked my world map and there is loads of orange and green lot errors all over the place. Its very random but i've attached some screenshots of the worlds in question...

• Willow Creek (entire world affected)
• Magnolia Promenade (entire world affected)
• San Myshuno - (1 lot affected)
• Sulani (entire world affected)
• Glimmerbrook (entire world affected)
• Evergeen Harbour (entire world affected)
• Tartosa (entire world affected)

You all have done some very impressive testing here <3 I hope they fix it soon!

@sabodreyar fyi the 99 unit limit is for residential rental units, not for residential lots or other lot types-- you can build on every lot in every world in the game, you just can't make them all residential rentals.

@nathaneous1 You mentioned a max of 18 units per lot, I assume you are using the cheat to increase the usual number of units allowed per lot?

Other people with this issue, are you using the cheat or no?

The truth is that this bug is going to end up driving my wife, my daughter and I crazy, especially my daughter who wants to play and I won't let her because I'm constantly testing her game.

The worst thing is that it is not something new, but rather it is something that has been going on for years, only that the release of the new expansion has further unpreserved this error along with others, and it is happening to many players, including youtubers in the middle of streaming.

@mightyspritesimsWithout the cheat, the error still happens, this happened to James Turner in a game on twitch and I have seen other cases of other youtubers who were not using cheats, one of them was even starting a game from scratch for a challenge and just downloading from the gallery 4 rental lots and locating them when leaving the map manager, several lots in Willow Creek and Magnolia had been broken. The curious thing about the case is that it does not happen to all players, sometimes it is random or not. I could not tell.

Yes using the bb.increaserentalunitcap on cheat :-)

Another thing that I noticed last night is that the broken lots when you go to the map manager, which you select to see the details of the lot, it loses the category where it says (type of lot), that the unaffected lots do not have this problem, it is Like the bug disappears the lot completely from the game, even when you access it (if it lets you do so) the type of lot is still empty in the description in the map view.

Image attached (the text is in Spanish since I live in Spain)

Interesting, i never noticed that before but can confirm it happens in my game aswell. Hope the EA team are looking at resolving this...

I give up, the new expansion, apart from being super broken in all aspects, has brought to light multiple bugs throughout the game, luckily I made a backup copy of my daughter's game, and mine and my wife's, because I see that the new expansion has only broken the game in a giant way.

I wish this doesn't happen to anyone else or they at least have a backup copy of their games, because it is already a risk to play with all those bugs hoping to corrupt the game even more.

I have the same Problem since for Rent. It effects Willow creek at First, Oasis Spring second. After it destroid my 3th save i did some Tests too. 

After it destroid my First i Made Backup saves so i luckily was able to come Back to the Moment before the First Lot broke. I since then tried a lot and in my save it happens, like some people mentioned here, after an amount of Residential rentals. At my saves it happens around  70 Units. I Testet it on my PC with Mcc installed and without Cheats (so No Rental Had more than 6 Units) and my Boyfriend allowed my to Test it in His Computer also. (No mods No Cheats)

I also tested what Happens when i Change the two Residential rentals in tomorang to Something different and move the Sims Out. This will give me 1-2 more of my own rentals before corrupting. So this looks for me Like Something related to the amount of Residential rentals in Game too. 

Unfortunatly, If a residental Lot ist corrupted in my game and i try to go into build to Change the lot Type it still says Residential. I tried to Change it to everything else but nothing works. If i simply Press play the lot will load but be empty. And If i Press "sell" the Family that Livestream there will be gone complitely (Not in the manage world Family View too). I mean they will be deleted.  Sorry, If my english is Bad.