Please use this thread going forward: Spine distortion on male Sims with female frame | EA Forums - 4948444
Update 10/1/2024 - Still broken. That's SIX updates and still no fix.
"Well you can fix it yourself, if you're so impatient."
I already did: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-Spine-distortion-on-male-Sims-with-female-frame/m-p/13916734/highlight/true#M286166
And I've explained how to fix it in detail: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-Spine-distortion-on-male-Sims-with-female-frame/m-p/14053376/highlight/true#M293677
But MODS don't help console simmers.
Laundry List 10/8/2024 - THE PIZZA DELIVERY SPECIALIST IS FINALLY GETTING FIXED!
A fix has existed for the Delivery Specialist since July 2021. It was made by - is it Simvasion or Galactrix - and can be found by searching for "Simvasion Food Delivery Fix". I've been complaining about this 2 KB fix not being in the game FOR YEARS!
With that out of the way...
I SEE NO MENTION OF THE DEFORMER MAPS GETTING FIXED.
Does this mean we're getting fixed or is that another no for the seventh time?
I have listed every one of the broken Deformer Maps breaking our bodies in this comment in this Bug Report here on AHQ:
And I provided the modfix and explained that it's as simple as restoring the old Deformer Maps from the 6/6/2024 version of the game:
Here's the INSTANCE LIST again, but this time in ALPHANUMERICAL ORDER:
The next comment I make, I will provide a GDrive or SFS link for an archive containing the 18 raw extracted files from 6/6/2024. Maybe EAxis simply doesn't have access to the files anymore, who knows!
@EA_Cade This doesnt just affect male sims with female frame it affects all sims if they use clothing, meant for the other frame. Could you adjust the title to account for this?
Male sim with female top:
Female Sim wearing a masculine-made full body outfit
Female sim with a male frame: Sunken in Chest.
Its all the same root cause with the 18 broken deformers. As @Sejian explained.
UPDATE 10/22/2024 - STILL NO OFFICIAL FIX!
THAT'S SEVEN (7)!
SEVEN (7) OFFICIAL UPDATES SINCE MY MOD-FIX AND NO OFFICIAL FIX!
This issue first appeared with Update 7/23/2024. I provided a fix for it on 7/30/2024 and since then I have explained in detail what the problem is and how to fix it.
Last time I said I'd provide the raw files in either a GDrive folder or an SFS folder, however, I have not had internet for the past 10 days and may not have internet til next month. I'm currently on a hot-linked limited cellular data plan. Until such time that I'm back online, the raw files can be extracted from the mod-fix I provided, which is available on CurseForge and Sims File Share if you prefer not to give CF your traffic. Both are linked in the SOLUTION comment, which is highlighted on the first page of this thread.
Weirdly enough now I noticed it's fixed on *some* things but not all of them? For a second I thought it was silently fixed but then once I changed to a different outfit the back fin was still there and pants badly warped.
@pullerv0
That means they fixed PartFlags on some CAS items, removing improper Restrict Opposite Gender flags. Unfortunately, there appears to be no communication between the Sims team and I'm certain the next EP will ship with more incorrect and improper PartFlags, regardless of the innumerable number of Bug Reports about this over the past 10 years. Every pack with CAS items has shipped with incorrect and improper PartFlags, from Base Game to Lovestruck. The only content release that was almost PartFlag perfect was Happy At Home and that turned into a 3-month fiasco of lost reward items.
The Deformer Maps are still broken.
This major distortion/deformity is caused by the 18 broken Deformer Maps, but improper ROGender flags are rampant in CAS and cause the issue to show while you're wearing CAS clothing items that are improperly ROGender flagged. If you're wearing frame-appropriate clothing, you won't see the broken Deformer Map distortion, this is why there isn't a flood of complaints about this. Cisframe sims won't encounter this issue as often as transframe sims do because improper ROGender flags don't affect them the way it does transframe sims and make the broken Deformer Maps blatant and in your face. If everyone was seeing this 100% of the time and complaining about it, it would've been fixed months ago.
ROGender forces your sim to wear the CAS item that matches your Gender (Sex) AKA Female or Male. It directly conflicts with our ability to change our Physical Frame and is only necessary in specific circumstances with specific items. In a "binary" Female/Male system, a flag like ROGender is fine to toss around, but with a "non-binary" system, it's a problem.
ROFrame forces your sim to wear the CAS item matching your Physical Frame. It is also only necessary in specific circumstances with specific types of CAS items.
Having neither ROGender or ROFrame with PROPER Clothing Preference flags allows simmers to choose to wear whatever they want, regardless of the minor crotch and neck deformities we use to see before they broke the Deformer Maps in 7/23/2024, giving us what we see now. On a side note, this means that the minor crotch and neck deformities we use to see on transframe sims wearing frame-inappropriate clothing is actually fixable by modifying the Deformer Maps. One of these fine days I'll commit to learning how modify Deformer Maps.
This is why you're no longer seeing it on some items. I hope the explanation was coherent. One of these fine days I will finish my big write-up on this.
As they PartFlag-fix more CAS items, the issue will appear less, however, all you have to do to verify if the Deformer Maps are fixed or not is to strip your transframe sim in CAS and voila, there's the 18 broken Deformer Maps at work.
The 18 broken Deformer Maps is literally a 3.26 MB / 7.92 MB PACKAGE / RAW fix.
They could push this in an SDX at any time!
Still not fixed as of the Halloween patch! (I know it's just a mini patch for the new pack, but still, it's an easy thing to fix, thanks to Sejian)
