[ARCHIVED] Spine distortion on male Sims with female frame
Product: The Sims 4 Platform:EA-PC Which language are you playing the game in? English How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%) What is your current game version number? 1.108.318.1020 DX9...
Anonymous
11 years ago
Hello everyone, this thread is now locked, as the problem has been solved. It will stay sticked a few more days, till Naval Strike is out and then will be unsticked.
Thank you all for your patients and have a great time playing Naval Strike!😕mileywink:
@pullerv0 ^^ You're welcome! I'm also happy to report that - no, our bodies are still broken - but EP17 CAS isn't a complete mess of incorrect PartFlags. They got MOST right, at least where Restrict Opposite Gender and Restrict Opposite Frame are concerned. They broke other things though.
@TenebrousGloom I agree that the way clothes works in TS4 is not ideal. I would've loved a system more akin to what we've seen in other games (I haven't played anything recent recently) like Skyrim.
To my understanding most clothing items actually do have separate meshes for Female and Male, which is why converting clothing items between Female and Male is a bloody chore that even I don't want to touch. However, they don't account for switching Physical Frames. The Deformer Maps - the working Deformer Maps - need some TLC to iron out the kinks, like the crotch and neck distortion, but they work to some degree.
The ideal solution would been unrestrictive Body Sliders.
My sim is Male / Feminine Frame. 0 mods. 100% Base Game. Countless hours spent in CAS sculpting their body partially because I just didn't want the stereotypical male body preset. I can download a set of Custom Sliders that can achieve my sim's body on Male / Masculine Frame sim. EAxis could unrestrict our bodies the same way, though I haven't thought about what that would mean for CAS items and wearing clothing made for the opposite Gender (Sex).
EIGHT (8) OFFICIAL UPDATES SINCE MY MOD-FIX AND STILL NO OFFICIAL FIX!
I'm being lazy tonight...
This issue first appeared with Update 7/23/2024. I provided a fix for it on 7/30/2024 and since then I have explained in detail what the problem is and how to fix it.
The mod-fix I provided is available on CurseForge and Sims File Share. Both are linked in the SOLUTION comment, which is highlighted on the first page of this thread.
In an unrelated note, what did y'all do to CAS in this last Update?!
NINE (9) OFFICIAL UPDATES SINCE MY MOD-FIX ON 7/30/2024 - THAT'S JULY 30 AND IT'S NOVEMBER 8 TODAY - AND STILL NO OFFICIAL FIX!
It's 5 AM and the last few days have been quite frustrating and I still have no internet, so I'm just gonna copypaste again.
This issue first appeared with Update 7/23/2024. I provided a fix for it on 7/30/2024 and since then I have explained in detail what the problem is and how to fix it.
The mod-fix I provided is available on CurseForge and Sims File Share. Both are linked in the SOLUTION comment, which is highlighted on the first page of this thread.
TEN (10) OFFICIAL UPDATES SINCE MY MOD-FIX ON JULY 30, 2024.
WE'VE NOW CROSSED INTO FIVE (5) MONTHS.
IT'S DECEMBER 4, 2024 TODAY. THAT'S ALMOST HALF THE YEAR!
This issue first appeared with Update 7/23/2024. I provided a fix for it on 7/30/2024 and since then I have explained in detail what the problem is and how to fix it.
The mod-fix I provided is available on CurseForge and Sims File Share. Both are linked in the SOLUTION comment, which is highlighted on the first page of this thread.
@Sejian Thank you! I'm shocked. Why do we have to make and use mods to fix the game? Off the Grid is still broken. Good people made a mod, we don't have to fix this problem, right, EA?
@olga_k2 I have no idea why this hasn't been fixed or patched into the game yet. I expected this would've been fixed when they fixed the broken eyelashes months ago, but update come and update go and nothing. Not even a mention of it.
@Sejian wrote: @olga_k2 I have no idea why this hasn't been fixed or patched into the game yet. I expected this would've been fixed when they fixed the broken eyelashes months ago, but update come and update go and nothing. Not even a mention of it.
It's very telling of their priorities. Pumping up login stats via FOMO-fest battle pass events with no opt out = #1 Do this Now, an easy fix that would follow through on their supposed commitment to letting players depict diverse people = meh, who cares?
Still fake inclusivity to look nice but EA really don't care about us.
And yes, that's insulting especially when a person (Seijan, thank you) created really quick a mod that solves the issue and give the simple solution to repair the issue.
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UPDATE 10/31/2024 IS NUMBER EIGHT (8)!
EIGHT (8) OFFICIAL UPDATES SINCE MY MOD-FIX AND STILL NO OFFICIAL FIX!
I'm being lazy tonight...
This issue first appeared with Update 7/23/2024. I provided a fix for it on 7/30/2024 and since then I have explained in detail what the problem is and how to fix it.
The mod-fix I provided is available on CurseForge and Sims File Share. Both are linked in the SOLUTION comment, which is highlighted on the first page of this thread.
In an unrelated note, what did y'all do to CAS in this last Update?!
Anyway... I still have no internet. Bye!
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UPDATE 10/31/2024 IS NUMBER EIGHT (8)!
EIGHT (8) OFFICIAL UPDATES SINCE MY MOD-FIX AND STILL NO OFFICIAL FIX!
I'm being lazy tonight...
This issue first appeared with Update 7/23/2024. I provided a fix for it on 7/30/2024 and since then I have explained in detail what the problem is and how to fix it.
The mod-fix I provided is available on CurseForge and Sims File Share. Both are linked in the SOLUTION comment, which is highlighted on the first page of this thread.
In an unrelated note, what did y'all do to CAS in this last Update?!
Anyway... I still have no internet. Bye!
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Weirdly enough now I noticed it's fixed on *some* things but not all of them? For a second I thought it was silently fixed but then once I changed to a different outfit the back fin was still there and pants badly warped.
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@pullerv0 That means they fixed PartFlags on some CAS items, removing improper Restrict Opposite Gender flags. Unfortunately, there appears to be no communication between the Sims team and I'm certain the next EP will ship with more incorrect and improper PartFlags, regardless of the innumerable number of Bug Reports about this over the past 10 years. Every pack with CAS items has shipped with incorrect and improper PartFlags, from Base Game to Lovestruck. The only content release that was almost PartFlag perfect was Happy At Home and that turned into a 3-month fiasco of lost reward items.
The Deformer Maps are still broken.
This major distortion/deformity is caused by the 18 broken Deformer Maps, but improper ROGender flags are rampant in CAS and cause the issue to show while you're wearing CAS clothing items that are improperly ROGender flagged. If you're wearing frame-appropriate clothing, you won't see the broken Deformer Map distortion, this is why there isn't a flood of complaints about this. Cisframe sims won't encounter this issue as often as transframe sims do because improper ROGender flags don't affect them the way it does transframe sims and make the broken Deformer Maps blatant and in your face. If everyone was seeing this 100% of the time and complaining about it, it would've been fixed months ago.
ROGender forces your sim to wear the CAS item that matches your Gender (Sex) AKA Female or Male. It directly conflicts with our ability to change our Physical Frame and is only necessary in specific circumstances with specific items. In a \"binary\" Female/Male system, a flag like ROGender is fine to toss around, but with a \"non-binary\" system, it's a problem.
ROFrame forces your sim to wear the CAS item matching your Physical Frame. It is also only necessary in specific circumstances with specific types of CAS items.
Having neither ROGender or ROFrame with PROPER Clothing Preference flags allows simmers to choose to wear whatever they want, regardless of the minor crotch and neck deformities we use to see before they broke the Deformer Maps in 7/23/2024, giving us what we see now. On a side note, this means that the minor crotch and neck deformities we use to see on transframe sims wearing frame-inappropriate clothing is actually fixable by modifying the Deformer Maps. One of these fine days I'll commit to learning how modify Deformer Maps.
This is why you're no longer seeing it on some items. I hope the explanation was coherent. One of these fine days I will finish my big write-up on this.
As they PartFlag-fix more CAS items, the issue will appear less, however, all you have to do to verify if the Deformer Maps are fixed or not is to strip your transframe sim in CAS and voila, there's the 18 broken Deformer Maps at work.
The 18 broken Deformer Maps is literally a 3.26 MB / 7.92 MB PACKAGE / RAW fix.
They could push this in an SDX at any time!
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@pullerv0 That means they fixed PartFlags on some CAS items, removing improper Restrict Opposite Gender flags. Unfortunately, there appears to be no communication between the Sims team and I'm certain the next EP will ship with more incorrect and improper PartFlags, regardless of the innumerable number of Bug Reports about this over the past 10 years. Every pack with CAS items has shipped with incorrect and improper PartFlags, from Base Game to Lovestruck. The only content release that was almost PartFlag perfect was Happy At Home and that turned into a 3-month fiasco of lost reward items.
The Deformer Maps are still broken.
This major distortion/deformity is caused by the 18 broken Deformer Maps, but improper ROGender flags are rampant in CAS and cause the issue to show while you're wearing CAS clothing items that are improperly ROGender flagged. If you're wearing frame-appropriate clothing, you won't see the broken Deformer Map distortion, this is why there isn't a flood of complaints about this. Cisframe sims won't encounter this issue as often as transframe sims do because improper ROGender flags don't affect them the way it does transframe sims and make the broken Deformer Maps blatant and in your face. If everyone was seeing this 100% of the time and complaining about it, it would've been fixed months ago.
ROGender forces your sim to wear the CAS item that matches your Gender (Sex) AKA Female or Male. It directly conflicts with our ability to change our Physical Frame and is only necessary in specific circumstances with specific items. In a \"binary\" Female/Male system, a flag like ROGender is fine to toss around, but with a \"non-binary\" system, it's a problem.
ROFrame forces your sim to wear the CAS item matching your Physical Frame. It is also only necessary in specific circumstances with specific types of CAS items.
Having neither ROGender or ROFrame with PROPER Clothing Preference flags allows simmers to choose to wear whatever they want, regardless of the minor crotch and neck deformities we use to see before they broke the Deformer Maps in 7/23/2024, giving us what we see now. On a side note, this means that the minor crotch and neck deformities we use to see on transframe sims wearing frame-inappropriate clothing is actually fixable by modifying the Deformer Maps. One of these fine days I'll commit to learning how modify Deformer Maps.
This is why you're no longer seeing it on some items. I hope the explanation was coherent. One of these fine days I will finish my big write-up on this.
As they PartFlag-fix more CAS items, the issue will appear less, however, all you have to do to verify if the Deformer Maps are fixed or not is to strip your transframe sim in CAS and voila, there's the 18 broken Deformer Maps at work.
The 18 broken Deformer Maps is literally a 3.26 MB / 7.92 MB PACKAGE / RAW fix.
They could push this in an SDX at any time!
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That makes perfect sense, ty for the explanation! I assumed it was sth like that, based on your earlier explanations of how things work wrt clothing tags. And thank you for explaining it so thoroughly, I really appreciate it.
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That makes perfect sense, ty for the explanation! I assumed it was sth like that, based on your earlier explanations of how things work wrt clothing tags. And thank you for explaining it so thoroughly, I really appreciate it.
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@TenebrousGloom I agree that the way clothes works in TS4 is not ideal. I would've loved a system more akin to what we've seen in other games (I haven't played anything recent recently) like Skyrim.
To my understanding most clothing items actually do have separate meshes for Female and Male, which is why converting clothing items between Female and Male is a bloody chore that even I don't want to touch. However, they don't account for switching Physical Frames. The Deformer Maps - the working Deformer Maps - need some TLC to iron out the kinks, like the crotch and neck distortion, but they work to some degree.
The ideal solution would been unrestrictive Body Sliders.
My sim is Male / Feminine Frame. 0 mods. 100% Base Game. Countless hours spent in CAS sculpting their body partially because I just didn't want the stereotypical male body preset. I can download a set of Custom Sliders that can achieve my sim's body on Male / Masculine Frame sim. EAxis could unrestrict our bodies the same way, though I haven't thought about what that would mean for CAS items and wearing clothing made for the opposite Gender (Sex).
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@TenebrousGloom I agree that the way clothes works in TS4 is not ideal. I would've loved a system more akin to what we've seen in other games (I haven't played anything recent recently) like Skyrim.
To my understanding most clothing items actually do have separate meshes for Female and Male, which is why converting clothing items between Female and Male is a bloody chore that even I don't want to touch. However, they don't account for switching Physical Frames. The Deformer Maps - the working Deformer Maps - need some TLC to iron out the kinks, like the crotch and neck distortion, but they work to some degree.
The ideal solution would been unrestrictive Body Sliders.
My sim is Male / Feminine Frame. 0 mods. 100% Base Game. Countless hours spent in CAS sculpting their body partially because I just didn't want the stereotypical male body preset. I can download a set of Custom Sliders that can achieve my sim's body on Male / Masculine Frame sim. EAxis could unrestrict our bodies the same way, though I haven't thought about what that would mean for CAS items and wearing clothing made for the opposite Gender (Sex).
@Jessycaz I came to update the counter! >8D","author":{"__ref":"User:user:5211399"},"isEscalated":null,"postTime":"2024-11-01T02:19:34.146Z","parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:11727071"},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Attachment:{\"id\":\"attachment:message11727075AttachmentNumber1\",\"url\":\"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/attachments/tghpe58374/the-sims-4-bug-reports-archive-en/216800/1/UPDATE_241031_STILL_BROKEN.png\"}":{"__typename":"Attachment","id":"attachment:message11727075AttachmentNumber1","filename":"UPDATE_241031_STILL_BROKEN.png","filesize":798684,"contentType":"image/png","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/attachments/tghpe58374/the-sims-4-bug-reports-archive-en/216800/1/UPDATE_241031_STILL_BROKEN.png"},"Revision:revision:11727075_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:11727075_1","lastEditTime":"2024-11-01T02:36:32.673Z"},"QueryVariables:ReplyList:message:11727075:1":{"__typename":"QueryVariables","id":"ReplyList:message:11727075:1","value":{"id":"message:11727075","sorts":{"postTime":{"direction":"ASC"}},"useAvatar":true,"useAuthorLogin":true,"useAuthorRank":true,"useBody":true,"useKudosCount":true,"useTimeToRead":false,"useMedia":false,"useReadOnlyIcon":false,"useRepliesCount":false,"useSearchSnippet":false,"useAcceptedSolutionButton":true,"useSolvedBadge":false,"useAttachments":false,"attachmentsFirst":5,"useTags":false,"useNodeAncestors":false,"useUserHoverCard":false,"useNodeHoverCard":false,"useModerationStatus":true,"usePreviewSubjectModal":false,"useMessageStatus":true}},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserAvatar-1741110277561":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserAvatar-1741110277561","value":{"altText":"{login}'s avatar","altTextGeneric":"User's avatar"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/attachments/AttachmentView/AttachmentViewChip-1741110277561":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/attachments/AttachmentView/AttachmentViewChip-1741110277561","value":{"errorTitle":"Failed!","previewFile":"Preview File","downloadFile":"Download File {name}","removeFile":"Remove File {name}","errorBadExtension":"This file does not have a valid extension. \"{extensions}\" are the valid extensions.","errorFileEmpty":"This file is empty or does not exist.","errorTooLarge":"The maximum file size is: {maxFileSize}.","errorTooMany":"Too many attachments. 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UPDATE 11/7/2024 MAKES NINE (9)!
NINE (9) OFFICIAL UPDATES SINCE MY MOD-FIX ON 7/30/2024 - THAT'S JULY 30 AND IT'S NOVEMBER 8 TODAY - AND STILL NO OFFICIAL FIX!
It's 5 AM and the last few days have been quite frustrating and I still have no internet, so I'm just gonna copypaste again.
This issue first appeared with Update 7/23/2024. I provided a fix for it on 7/30/2024 and since then I have explained in detail what the problem is and how to fix it.
The mod-fix I provided is available on CurseForge and Sims File Share. Both are linked in the SOLUTION comment, which is highlighted on the first page of this thread.
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<3 I really really appreciate it!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"81","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2024-11-16T06:29:11.657Z","lastPublishTime":"2024-11-16T06:29:11.657Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1055},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-bug-reports-archive-en/message:11727014/message:11727081","repliesCount":6,"readOnly":true,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:11727082":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:11727082","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:11727082":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:5211399"},"id":"message:11727082","revisionNum":1,"uid":11727082,"depth":15,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-bug-reports-archive-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:11727081"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:11727014"},"subject":"Re: [ARCHIVED] Spine distortion on male Sims with female frame","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:11727082"},"body":"@StrifeDacosta You're welcome!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"31","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2024-11-20T18:58:51.031Z","lastPublishTime":"2024-11-20T18:58:51.031Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":949},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-bug-reports-archive-en/message:11727014/message:11727082","repliesCount":5,"readOnly":true,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:11727084":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:11727084","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:11727084":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:5211399"},"id":"message:11727084","revisionNum":1,"uid":11727084,"depth":16,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-bug-reports-archive-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:11727082"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:11727014"},"subject":"Re: [ARCHIVED] Spine distortion on male Sims with female frame","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:11727084"},"body":"
UPDATE 12/3/2024 MAKES TEN (10).
TEN (10) OFFICIAL UPDATES SINCE MY MOD-FIX ON JULY 30, 2024.
WE'VE NOW CROSSED INTO FIVE (5) MONTHS.
IT'S DECEMBER 4, 2024 TODAY. THAT'S ALMOST HALF THE YEAR!
This issue first appeared with Update 7/23/2024. I provided a fix for it on 7/30/2024 and since then I have explained in detail what the problem is and how to fix it.
The mod-fix I provided is available on CurseForge and Sims File Share. Both are linked in the SOLUTION comment, which is highlighted on the first page of this thread.
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I'm shocked. Why do we have to make and use mods to fix the game? Off the Grid is still broken. Good people made a mod, we don't have to fix this problem, right, EA?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"184","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2024-12-04T08:20:56.410Z","lastPublishTime":"2024-12-04T08:20:56.410Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":744},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-bug-reports-archive-en/message:11727014/message:11727085","repliesCount":3,"readOnly":true,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:11727086":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:11727086","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:11727086":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:5211399"},"id":"message:11727086","revisionNum":1,"uid":11727086,"depth":18,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-bug-reports-archive-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:11727085"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:11727014"},"subject":"Re: [ARCHIVED] Spine distortion on male Sims with female frame","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:11727086"},"body":"@olga_k2 I have no idea why this hasn't been fixed or patched into the game yet. I expected this would've been fixed when they fixed the broken eyelashes months ago, but update come and update go and nothing. Not even a mention of it.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2024-12-04T09:57:17.239Z","lastPublishTime":"2024-12-04T09:57:17.239Z","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":720},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-bug-reports-archive-en/message:11727014/message:11727086","repliesCount":2,"readOnly":true,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Rank:rank:28":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:28","position":35,"name":"Seasoned Scout","color":"000000","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:238314":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:238314","uid":238314,"login":"flying-womrats","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2023-11-19T18:29:12.397Z"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/custom/sims_42-1735829385565.jpg?time=1735829395000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:28"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:238314"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:11727087":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:11727087","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:11727087":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:238314"},"id":"message:11727087","revisionNum":1,"uid":11727087,"depth":19,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-bug-reports-archive-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:11727086"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:11727014"},"subject":"Re: [ARCHIVED] Spine distortion on male Sims with female frame","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:11727087"},"body":"
@Sejian wrote: @olga_k2 I have no idea why this hasn't been fixed or patched into the game yet. I expected this would've been fixed when they fixed the broken eyelashes months ago, but update come and update go and nothing. Not even a mention of it.
It's very telling of their priorities. Pumping up login stats via FOMO-fest battle pass events with no opt out = #1 Do this Now, an easy fix that would follow through on their supposed commitment to letting players depict diverse people = meh, who cares?
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Patch day and still no fix !
Who is surprised ?
Still fake inclusivity to look nice but EA really don't care about us.
And yes, that's insulting especially when a person (Seijan, thank you) created really quick a mod that solves the issue and give the simple solution to repair the issue.
