[FIXED] [CL] [SE] Overlapping festivals/Food Stalls

I have just noticed that when I load up the game. All the events on the home calendar are turned off. So I turned them all on. Saved the game and reloaded. The same thing happened. So I am not sure what is going on there.

@StrifeDacosta litter happens as soon as you travel to an apartment. Festivals should not happen on a new save 

@Marishaflea possibly another trogger to make them visible? Do you have a save before you turned them on? And would you mind sending me the save? 

Can you give me instructions on how to send you my saved file?

He has info how to send it right in his post... 1 line above your post...

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@crinrict I have another question. So how can I bulldoze/change a lot type of my r-rentals if not through loading a Build Mode? I am planning to delete/change any R-rentals from my game to prevent the following bugs: littering bug + overlapping festivals + orange exclamations + default lots showing in surrounding world, etc.

@crinrictThanks for your great work analyzing and finding a walk around to fix the game 🥰
Personally, I still hope EA is working on a bug fix as I can't bear to restore all the relationships between my San Myshuno sims in my three year old game.
I've always made it a habit to save very often under a new name and save backup saves on an external drive. That's why it's quite shocking to discover that it's my entire game and therefore all saves that are infected.
I've uploaded a new game back to factory settings for future games but I can really feel it takes a deep breath to have to recreate relationships and buildings. I still hope EA will take care of this. I wonder if they even bother?

@StrifeDacosta You can't. You have to go through build but if you change a r-rental to normal, everything that's in the the lot part is booted back to the world part and you should then be able to remove stuff.

I don't think that the default lot/exclamation mark issue is related to this other than it can bloat your save game. So I kinda doubt these saves can be saved. The info on the houses is just not there anymore. I haven't looked into that at all though and don't think I have the means to.

@Marishaflea In your save I have all the festival crap as soon as I load into the hood although all the calendar items are turend off. Do you only see them when the items are turned on ?

@crinrict If we play with Mods, can we just shift click and delete the festival items or will that create more problems? Like others I have a very long detailed save and uninstalling and reinstalling is just not a good option for me. Not to mention this is across multiple saves. TY. 

I’m scared but I’ll try lol

Backup your saves then try on the backup :D

OK. I think I need some guinea pigs.

I believe that it's safe to just delete everything in the openstreetdata as it should all just respawn.

There have been some folks saying they had issues with the calendar afterwards but that might just be a temp issue.

So, for anyone feeling brave enough to use S4Studio to fix their overlapping festivals, please try the following (this is not working for console):

Do make a backup of your save game before attempting this. I do know not at this point if there are side effects to this. I would also start with just one neighborhood. I can't take any responsibility if you mess up your save this way. Also make sure to close down your game between loading different saves.

EDIT: If you use T.O.O.L you might need to be careful what you delete. I don't know where that stuff is saved.

I wrote a basic tutorial post on S4Studio here: https://sims4.crinrict.com/eng/2024/12/clean-saves-with-s4studio-basics/ and there's a list of all the world_ids (they stay the same for every savegame) here: https://sims4.crinrict.com/eng/neighborhoods/

1. Follow the basic tutorial to load the save game data of your save and navigate to streets
   
2. Make sure to to check the world_id (linked List above) to find the correct OpenStreetsData, then click on Edit items next to objects
   
   
   
3. Check the objects if it's plausible that you choose the right file (for example for geekcon there are game consoles in the list) then choose the first object and just hit clear. This will empty all the entries
   
   
4. Click on the save button
5. Click on the save button on the next streets window as well
6. Save the whole thing through the main menu under a new name (details in the basic guide)
7. Start the new save game and check if the festival overlap is gone. Be aware that you will still see some objects like furniture for the flea market, possible plants and other collectibles. These are saved elsewhere and can be removed with the guide I linked above. 
8. Play the game at least to the next festival in that hood (normal as you always would) and check if the festival spawns and despawns correctly. Please also check your calendar if everything is ok.
9. Let me know if you have any issues.

I do advise to just play one lot while at the festival to prevent further festival items to move to wrong space and wait till it's completely gone before leaving.

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@MonaSolstraale wrote:

 as I can't bear to restore all the relationships between my San Myshuno sims in my three year old game.

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 @MonaSolstraale , I used the method1 from Crin's blog (disabled and later enabled SanM to get new fresh one).. I simply have moved all my SanM sims to another world for safekeeping.

No relationships/ familyties lost. Of course I have few bald naked sim running around, but personally easier to fix than starting new save all over or do the s4s method. 

Of course only speaking for myself.

I’m on XB and am tempted to try this.  But did you lose a lot of other things in addition to clothes and hair? Traits, employment, etc? I’ve got a wide community of Sims and I’m hesitant to try this fix because of all the “holes” it may leave. Are you pleased with the results? 

@indywara including alle the rugs an deco items? Thats good to know.

The smaller items are a big issue and the need to still fix that

@crinrict I tried to clean San Myshuno using your method no 1.
Moved all my played families from San Myshuno to empty lots in Newcrest. Saved all decorated apartments in the library and uninstalled City Living.
After saving and reinstalling the package I started to re-establish the apartments and here I discovered that the mission failed. The colored carpets were back in San Myshuno on the squares.
Either they are linked to an apartment or my Save was contaminated by another Save in the Sims4 folder.
Now I have deleted all Saves except one and am trying to repeat the process. Wish me luck.

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@MonaSolstraale wrote:

@crinrict I tried to clean San Myshuno using your method no 1.
Moved all my played families from San Myshuno to empty lots in Newcrest. Saved all decorated apartments in the library and uninstalled City Living.
After saving and reinstalling the package I started to re-establish the apartments and here I discovered that the mission failed. The colored carpets were back in San Myshuno on the squares.
Either they are linked to an apartment or my Save was contaminated by another Save in the Sims4 folder.
Now I have deleted all Saves except one and am trying to repeat the process. Wish me luck.

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The exact same thing happened to me today, there's still rugs and plants around the square even after uninstalling and reinstalling the pack. I don't know if there was something else that needed to be deleted in the process of uninstalling

@CorviNow Thanks for the feedback.
This time I'm also trying to repair the game. It's going to take some time as I have almost all the packages.
I will say that I've had just as good an effect by deleting all overlapped festivals with shift-delete in MCCC Debug settings. It doesn't remove the carpets but festivals spawn and despawn without errors afterwards.

Unfortunately, repairing the game after deleting and reinstalling San Myshuno didn't help either.
I don't really have the guts to mess with Sims4Studio so I think I'll have to live with the colored carpets at the festival sites or hope for an effective game fix. The last option is of course to scrap all old Saves, but I don't find that option very desirable.

For me uninstalling/reinstalling CL only cleared the Festival detritus if I did NOT move my households to the Library and instead let the game boot them into Household Management when I opened the game sans CL. 

After uninstalling CL I opened and briefly played my game (sans CL) with a newly created Sim on an empty lot. Then I went to Manage Worlds and checked Household Management. All my CL Sims were in HM.  I got a lot - a whole lot - of "items not installed" notices. I assumed this was all the Festival cruft that was in my Sims Household Inventories, because they were not all outfitted with CL CAS items. After that I saved, quite the game and reinstalled CL. The detritus was gone, but I still don't play in SM because of the ongoing problem of accumulating plates, drinks etc....

This was my third try at getting rid of the Festival cruft by disabling/uninstalling CL, so it may have been third times a charm. Results may vary.

I used copies of the same Save in a new The Sims 4 folder for each attempt. I did save all my builds to the Library, but then I set that Tray folder onto the desktop.

Always use copies when testing out theories.