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6 years ago
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[FIXED] [ECO] NAPs from all neighbourhoods are applied to visiting NPCs

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.63.134.1020
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All except Tiny Living.
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Wait for voting on neighbourhood actions plans to complete for the first time and then observe the behaviour of NPCs in the area.
What happens when the bug occurs? The NPCs in the area may do interactions based on NAPs active in other neighbourhoods than the one they're currently in.
What do you expect to see? Visiting NPCs should only follow neighbourhood action plan policies that are enacted in their current location.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Not now. I've removed them.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? No

Let's say that your sim lives in the Windslar neighbourhood in Windenburg and votes for the Self Sufficiency neighbourhood action plan. Monday 6pm arrives and voting closes. The policy gets enacted immediately.

Then you notice NPCs in the area, who were acting normally before doing free love, swiping things and they're all dazed from being juiced. None of those policies are enacted at the current location. You find out that free love was voted for in the Fashion District in San Mysuno, Sharing is Caring is enacted in Willow Creek and Juiced was voted for successfully in Oasis Springs.

When an NPC visits any area, they get all policies from every neighbourhood applied to them all at the same time. This is the cause of many of the other bug threads currently popping up reporting excessive NAP behaviour, including the one where NPCs are consulting future cubes even though the Tech Support NAP wasn't voted on (it was voted in somewhere else and is active in the world), the one where NPCs are swiping things without the Sharing is Caring being active, the one where sims are performing music too much, the one where sims are playing with blobs of clay too much, etc.

I was able to confirm this using Show Sim Info mod, which lets you inspect the buffs active on sims - visiting NPCs had all the autonomy modifiers for every civic policy applied to them at the same time from every neighbourhood in my game that had voted for a policy.

EDIT: I've uploaded a mod to fix this on my blog. You can find it by Google searching for "simvasion mods".

  • The NAP autonomy buffs are only being incorrectly applied to instanced NPCs. Your played sims will instead get traits and hidden tracking buffs which award extra influence for performing actions. They don't trigger autonomous behaviour like it applies to NPCs. If your sims are autonomously doing stuff more now, it's caused by something not related to this bug, or it's just their normal behaviour.
    EDIT: there is indeed a separate bug where after the NPC autonomy buffs have gone, the underlying trigger commodities may get stuck on your sims somehow. You should check out this other bug thread: Active sims interrupt current action to do something else
  • NAPs from everywhere means everywhere - not just the three neighbourhoods of Evergreen Harbor. I saw someone comment that they'd repealed NAPs from their "3 neighbourhoods" but NAPs can be active in Willow Creek, Oasis Springs, Newcrest, Evergreen Harbor etc. and you should check to see what is voted for there too.

Edit By Crinrict: Added Tag to Title, Shortened Title

  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    6 years ago

    ● NPC Sims will no longer follow enacted policies in their home neighborhood if Sims travel to another neighborhood or world before the voting period ends.

    Fixed in Patch 1.65.70/ 1.29

    If you're still experiencing this issue, please create a new thread.

    I will leave all the threads listed in post 2 open for now to see how that goes.

    Your feedback there is appreciated.

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