Re: [FIXED] Toddlers doesn't want to stay in a high chair (Patch 1.63.136)

@Maysbat  I do feel like high chairs be fixed as well, but I've kinda given up hope since the expansion is so old and they still haven't fixed it, the odds of us getting a fix are probably slim. Just because we found a work around doesn't really excuse that it's a problem. Realistically, parents start children off in high chairs and for good reason. It keeps toddlers safely at their own personal little table and they are messy eaters who often play with their food that you don't really want stuck to your nearest couch or chair. And admittedly in SIMS 4, they still splash and play as their eating iidle animation when given a plate to eat and you just imagine all the mess everywhere. *laughs*

@FireLotus97  High chairs really are hard. It's like putting the game on hard mode so I'm impressed you use them at all. 3-4 tries and the toddler still not being in the chair isn't odd, making it unplayable. It's like you have to start before they are hungry and they'll eat by the time they are almost being taken away which isn't exactly realistic. What parent doesn't just ignore the demand to get out when they need to eat and ask them to eat first before letting them out?

@Maysbat  That sounds amazing. That would stop them from begging for freedom and they already look like the proper age to start learning how to sit at a table like the big kids. *laughs* They just need shorter tables because they are still so small. I can even imagine how easy it would be to shrink down one of the art tables and just redesign it to be for toddlers or shrink some tables and chairs and have them work the same way, but be toddler only for families with more than one toddler at a time. It would be so cute seeing them wanting to be like older family members and getting their own special spot to do it.

I can also see more traditional people REALLY wanting the high chairs to get fixed though because they grew up using them and having siblings use them and I mean it is technically already in the game. They just have to put some sort of cool down that would give parents time to get food and busy the toddlers with eating before they start begging for freedom once put in their high chair. Maybe some code that only allows toddlers to ask to be let out if their hunger is at least 3/4ths full at which point you KNOW they've eaten something. I don't think a hunger check would be too hard. I saw the short code that is messing with the toilets showing flames that is a quick insect farm check. So I think it'd be the easiest solution since we know what the bug is exactly and what's causing the problem.

@PriestessAvenara  I'm Agree. Using high chairs is really like playing Sims 4 on hard mode and playing the challenge with an single mother/father and 7 toddlers, without getting any help from a babysitter, butler or befriended neighbors and caring all little ones to take seats on every highchairs to give food or drink without to take out of them at first or if a toddler want already out of the high chair is much frustrating.

I can once remember that toddlers interrupts her eating to constantly do funny interactions like making funny faces or talking nonsense, if they sitting together with family on table and made older sims with many moodlets very playful or hysterical (with the So sweet/How cute 1+-playful moodlet). Fortunally they now making not too often funny faces/grimaces since an update, i'm not sure which update it was, but man it drove me crazy that toddlers had nonstop to do making a funny face or to talk nonsense during eating a meal.

@PipMenace  I think the purpose of the parent not doing it anyway is you can then have a chance to discipline your toddler after they refuse something and the next time you try they don't refuse or at least get to in my experience. It's probably because disciplining your toddler/child is in one of the aspirations. I get around most of it by having the toddlers ask for everything. That bypasses everything except being put to bed if you want to read them a story. Then I just calmly discipline them when they fuss about bed and my day is free of over powered toddlers plus my toddlers gain social faster because they are asking for so much. If I want to do the discipline part of the aspiration I just instruct the toddler to make a mess as many times as is needed.

You are right though. Even a first time parent still getting their bearings doesn't just give up on their plans when their toddler fusses. Although as a parent I did take the time to explain why something was necessary and then expected my toddler to be more willing. Sometimes yes, sometimes no, but the baths and bedtimes never changed. They might have had a brief hiccup, but my bath time and bed expectations didn't budge. The consistency probably helped in creating a routine to follow, but that's part of being a parent is teaching importance and routine. They are little people in their own right and I believe in patience.

However, there is no way to discipline a toddler when they throw their food on the floor nor should the parents be running to take their toddlers out just because they were asked the minute you put them in. That's ridiculous. There is no way to create routine if the parent doesn't leave them in their high chair or get to express it's bad to toss your food. Relying on their thinking stat for how much they do that without including a parent's ability to express that was wrong so they eat next time isn't acceptable. Letting them out every time they want out is neither helpful nor realistic. Most parents ask them to at least eat a little first because that is the purpose of a high chair...it's their eating spot. Which is why there should be a way to discipline them when they throw their food on the floor and a code check of some sort that they are ignored when asked to move to the other high chair or be let out until their hunger is filled to at least 90%.

@PipMenace  You need Parenthood installed as far as I know so it may be you are missing this pack. If you have Parenthood, it's under the parenting choice when they are misbehaving. The one that usually has things like Teach to Say Sorry, but only after they've done something wrong like refused a bath for instance. I can see people who don't have the pack would find the toddlers overpowered and frustrating with no way to discipline them. That doesn't seem fair to people without the pack. It was one of the first ones I got when I bought the game so I sometimes forget it's not an option for everyone. If nothing else now you know why the toddlers seem overpowered. They are catering to the Parenthood pack.