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LsCrmr
4 years ago
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[WORKAROUND] [PH] Children will not stop making messes

Product: The Sims 4 Platform:PC Which language are you playing the game in? English How often does the bug occur? Often (50% - 99%) What is your current game version number? 1.73.57.1030 What...
  • daikoyu's avatar
    daikoyu
    4 years ago

    If you have dust to bust and clean floors (always +2inspired) it’s because of this buff. Kids makes mess if they inspired (It's sadly her favorite autonomy behaviour). You have 6 options:

    1. Disable Autonomy
    2. Remove the buff with a mod (ModTheSim, Lotharihoe or Zero)
    3. Use a mod to block the autonomy make mess (Bienchen or MCM Tuner)
    4. Don’t clear the floor for the other buff +1happy
    5. Remove the Kit completely via -disablepacks:SP22
    6. (Disable the Kit under game option // Toggle don’t work, it’s a bug //)
daikoyu's avatar
daikoyu
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago

If you have dust to bust and clean floors (always +2inspired) it’s because of this buff. Kids makes mess if they inspired (It's sadly her favorite autonomy behaviour). You have 6 options:

  1. Disable Autonomy
  2. Remove the buff with a mod (ModTheSim, Lotharihoe or Zero)
  3. Use a mod to block the autonomy make mess (Bienchen or MCM Tuner)
  4. Don’t clear the floor for the other buff +1happy
  5. Remove the Kit completely via -disablepacks:SP22
  6. (Disable the Kit under game option // Toggle don’t work, it’s a bug //)
  • xochiquetzl_xkvn's avatar
    xochiquetzl_xkvn
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    What @daikoyu said.

    I don't have Bust the Dust, but I made the mistake of creating a child Sim with the creative trait, and... yeah.  To repeat myself from the "autonomy" thread (because it belongs here)...

    As I joked to a friend:

    Parenting -> Discipline Recent Behavior -> Over It -> Put Up For Adoption

    At the same time, I worried that perhaps his relationship with his parents would be damaged because he was SO PERSISTENT in making messes that basically the only times an adult interacted with him it was either "help with homework or school project" or progressively stricter discipline for all those messes. Seriously:

    Kid: makes mess

    Parent: Parenting -> Discipline recent behavior -> calm -> ask not to make a mess

    Kid: immediately makes more mess

    Parent: Parenting -> Discipline recent behavior -> firm -> express disappointment for making a mess

    Kid: immediately makes more mess

    Parent: Parenting -> Discipline recent behavior -> strict -> give time out for making a mess

    Kid: goes into timeout with a snit, then immediately makes more mess

    Me: You little (#)@*#@&#& WILL YOU STOP!

    Parent: Parenting -> Discipline recent behavior -> punish -> ground for making a mess

    Kid: little orange tense sliver at the end of a mass of inspired moodlets, so immediately makes more mess

    Me: Is there a "put child up for adoption" option on the computer?

    Parent: Parenting -> Discipline recent behavior -> punish -> double ground for making a mess

    Kid: immediately makes more mess

    Me: I will not delete a child. I will not delete a child. I will not delete a child. I will not....

    Parent: Parenting -> Discipline recent behavior -> punish -> triple ground for making a mess

    Ad nauseum. Eventually I got the bug where all options were "stealthily," like "steathily use toilet, stealthily get leftovers, stealthily do homework, and then stealthily go to bed." LOL, except that he hemorrhaged responsibility, argh!

    I've since downloaded Bienchen's mod forbidding autonomous messes. 

    TL;DR:  @daikoyu is absolutely correct that if they're inspired their default idle appears to be make a mess.  It's THE WORST and needs to STOP.

    • SynnieSimmers's avatar
      SynnieSimmers
      2 years ago

      It's two years later... I'm at the point of unaliving a child... this made me feel better haha 

       

      Twins.  The genius one constantly makes messes... at home or in the park or at the neighbours...  

  • Saihyou's avatar
    Saihyou
    4 years ago

    I can't imagine why they'd make "make mess" the default inspired action for children, when they seem absolutely determined to make half of the CAS objects for childrens re-colors of the exact same drawing station. Make them want to draw instead of wanting to misbehave! Where do they even get the stuff to make a mess with anyway? We never have to buy any ingredients, so why are are there so many of them around to the point children keep entire bottles of them on their person at all times...? Honestly, it breaks my immersion-- nevermind, this is becoming a rant.

    As others have said, it's just tied to the clean floor inspired buff, and no matter how much you discipline your children with Parenting, they'll do it endlessly. Gotta love how impactful your Sims' actions are when they'll be disregarded not three seconds later!

    • xochiquetzl_xkvn's avatar
      xochiquetzl_xkvn
      Seasoned Ace
      4 years ago

      @Saihyou  When I was 4, I scribbled all over one of my books because I had a mental image that the book would look gorgeous with intertwined scrollwork around the pages, which I didn't have the skill to execute (or the vocabulary to explain).  I never did it again after:

      Mom:  Why did you do that?  WHY DID YOU DO THAT????? WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT???????

      Me: I... thought it would be... pretty?

      Mom:  *disgusted eyeroll*

      So I can see a kid autonomously making a mess once because they're inspired.  Maybe twice!  I can't see a kid spilling paint or chocolate syrup all over the floor a million times a day while their parents greet each mess with "You're grounded!  No TV, computer, phone, friends, leaving the house, or breathing!"

      It's the PERSISTENCE of the activity that's immersion-breaking.  Whyyyyyyyyyy do they do this as their default idle activity? Seriously, guys, what's up with the tuning on this activity?

      • Saihyou's avatar
        Saihyou
        4 years ago
        @xochiquetzl_xkvn You at least scribbled on a book, that seems perfectly normal within the bounds of childhood logic. But as you say, having an endless supply of flour (I'd wonder if it's baby powder but let's be real, babies are objects in Sims 4, and the only object we powder in this game is the floor apparently), chocolate and paint that goes all over the floors endlessly as a default behavior, as opposed to scribbling or painting all over 1 of 97 variants of drawing station, makes no sense.

        They could even give it a parallel to the smashed doll house! When kids do this, the drawing table is graffiti tagged to hell and back, and possibly even destroyed! It can be repaired, cleaned, whatever. But at least when it's done, it's DONE. It doesn't happen. Every. Thirty. Seconds.

        Agh!

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