Between2Worlds [Story] 06/04
https://i.ibb.co/xYcr7Zv/B2-WPart2-Banner.jpg Prologue here. Prologue here.
Forum Discussion
@ArcherDK
Lol ahaha! OOTW could be a parody of B2W! :joy:
Thank you. The themes are dear to me, and I’m glad you see my writing about them positively. :smile:
I’m so sorry this is so long!!! :confounded:
I’m so curious about this Mary-sue! :lol: I believe we might have a different definition to what a Mary Sue is so I went ahead and read up more about this archetype and apparently it is used in such a wide context that it’s made me extra confused! So I’m going to link to the definition of Mary sue I found that I’m going to analyse from. All about Mary Sue
Athena’s traits in Ch 7-9 is to me, typical teenage angst. Additionally she’s in the early stages of discarding her emotionally repressed nature, so she hasn’t found the critical balance between assertion and arrogance. The grim saying “I don’t remember such candor from you” can imply either assertion (she’s gaining confidence) or arrogance. (she’s gaining too much :lol: )
The thing about the above is, both are plausible. In Ch 6 I intended the happy airy schooling experience to make Athena come out of her shell and show her that she CAN and SHOULD let go and behave like a normal teenager. She did as you can see, but whether the superficial acceptance had inflated her ego, I left it up to the reader’s interpretation. :smile:
And there will be more magic in the later chapters! And they will meld together into the plot so don’t worry! You’re still at the part where she’s still distrustful and keeps her identity a secret from the world. But once she trusts, it will pour into the plot! :smiley:
What happened to her is horrible yes, but I cannot agree with you that she brought it upon herself. I always revert back to these questions. If a woman walks around topless, is she asking to be assaulted? I answer a hearty no. If a person gets drunk and is taken advantage of, did they bring it upon themselves? Still a no. When Athena makes the wrongest of all decisions due to an inflated sense of security against the world, did she bring it upon herself? I have to say no too. The thing about this is we tend to forgive those who are physically vulnerable (i.e. being drunk) or handicapped, but we are harsh towards that we cannot see (mental health issues and especially, error of judgement). Athena has made the worst kind of error here.
Lol ahaha! OOTW could be a parody of B2W! :joy:
Thank you. The themes are dear to me, and I’m glad you see my writing about them positively. :smile:
I’m so sorry this is so long!!! :confounded:
I’m so curious about this Mary-sue! :lol: I believe we might have a different definition to what a Mary Sue is so I went ahead and read up more about this archetype and apparently it is used in such a wide context that it’s made me extra confused! So I’m going to link to the definition of Mary sue I found that I’m going to analyse from. All about Mary Sue
Spoiler
If we share this definition of a ‘mary sue’, I think Athena would best fit another Archetype. To the points:
1.Based on the author - Naturally. All my characters (even males) have bits of pieces of me. I need a character that is believable and real. But she is also based off traits from people around me.
2.No flaws - Contrarily, Athena is a very flawed character. Will detail in point 5.
3.Everyone reacts wonderfully to her - No. Not everyone. And if you refer to the reaction of her schoolmates during the basketball scene, it is simply the superficiality that comes with fame. You’ll see.
4.Boy magnet - No. NO. NO! If she were to be caught up in some drama involving more than 1 men, I will do my best to make it realistic and not plucked out of thin air. (Kian would fit this point instead)
5.No growth, no change - I think you’ve noticed too that Athena is a dynamic character. Her character in Ch 1-5 is vastly different from Ch7-9 - the catalyst being Ch 6. As you continue reading, you’ll find her developing in response to how she interacts with the people/environment. Current update would show her character shifting once again. There will be another moment too that you’re fast approaching.
If we share this definition of a ‘mary sue’, I think Athena would best fit another Archetype. To the points:
1.Based on the author - Naturally. All my characters (even males) have bits of pieces of me. I need a character that is believable and real. But she is also based off traits from people around me.
2.No flaws - Contrarily, Athena is a very flawed character. Will detail in point 5.
3.Everyone reacts wonderfully to her - No. Not everyone. And if you refer to the reaction of her schoolmates during the basketball scene, it is simply the superficiality that comes with fame. You’ll see.
4.Boy magnet - No. NO. NO! If she were to be caught up in some drama involving more than 1 men, I will do my best to make it realistic and not plucked out of thin air. (Kian would fit this point instead)
5.No growth, no change - I think you’ve noticed too that Athena is a dynamic character. Her character in Ch 1-5 is vastly different from Ch7-9 - the catalyst being Ch 6. As you continue reading, you’ll find her developing in response to how she interacts with the people/environment. Current update would show her character shifting once again. There will be another moment too that you’re fast approaching.
Athena’s traits in Ch 7-9 is to me, typical teenage angst. Additionally she’s in the early stages of discarding her emotionally repressed nature, so she hasn’t found the critical balance between assertion and arrogance. The grim saying “I don’t remember such candor from you” can imply either assertion (she’s gaining confidence) or arrogance. (she’s gaining too much :lol: )
The thing about the above is, both are plausible. In Ch 6 I intended the happy airy schooling experience to make Athena come out of her shell and show her that she CAN and SHOULD let go and behave like a normal teenager. She did as you can see, but whether the superficial acceptance had inflated her ego, I left it up to the reader’s interpretation. :smile:
And there will be more magic in the later chapters! And they will meld together into the plot so don’t worry! You’re still at the part where she’s still distrustful and keeps her identity a secret from the world. But once she trusts, it will pour into the plot! :smiley:
What happened to her is horrible yes, but I cannot agree with you that she brought it upon herself. I always revert back to these questions. If a woman walks around topless, is she asking to be assaulted? I answer a hearty no. If a person gets drunk and is taken advantage of, did they bring it upon themselves? Still a no. When Athena makes the wrongest of all decisions due to an inflated sense of security against the world, did she bring it upon herself? I have to say no too. The thing about this is we tend to forgive those who are physically vulnerable (i.e. being drunk) or handicapped, but we are harsh towards that we cannot see (mental health issues and especially, error of judgement). Athena has made the worst kind of error here.
