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- What did you think about the comic strip ch. 6.4? Did it adequately summarise Curtis's role? Were there any plot holes? Any thoughts on its delivery?
I think I have written it already in the comments. It is well done.
- What do you think of Athena and Curtis's Not-date scene at the promenade?
I think it was kinda cute. I'm not a fan of throwing food, tho XD
- What do you think of the progression of Athena and Curtis’s relationship from strangers to lovers?
- Did it flow realistically? Did any parts feel forced or too fast?
- Their romance was never intended to be ‘pure’, even if it started out that way. Did you catch it as a reader? Did you realise at any point a shift beginning to happen? Where? Did you catch yourself responding to it?
- How would you describe their romance/relationship?
I always had the feeling it came more from her side than from his.
At first she may have been just curious, and then thought herself into having a crush (idk if that makes sense, like, you keep thinking about someone more and more, until you feel like you have a crush on them), and then stubborn enough to pursue a relationship bc he was so different than anyone she knew (also, let's be honest, someone that risks their life for you will always be somehow attractive, even if it was just out of plain human decency ;) )
He on the other side, seemed very passive, and it feels he rather dated her bc she was pursuing him. Then she's cute, has courage, and is always supportive about him. What's not to like here?
The whole relationship feels more like one out of convenience and curiosity, but what exactly it is worth, will probably only be shown in S2.
So far they had almost zero time spending as a couple, and when they finally had towards the end, the real problem surfaced.
They don't understand each other.
Athena wants him to leave his world and live a normal life, but he doesn't want to (or he would have done that long time ago), and he is still longing for that always supportive, always sweet girl she once was.
I know in the last chapter they had a talk, but that is not enough. I also don't think Curtis giving up his life for Athena will work. He needs to want it by himself. And I doubt Athena understands fully what it means to have a criminal mindset (bc that's what Curtis has, he was raised like that)
- Grim's explanation of the cycle of life/death: Do you have any pressing questions? What else would you have liked to know?
Tbh I have trouble remembering it. Also, I am probably a minority, but I care very little about world lore xD I'm more interested in current happenings and character development.
- What do you think of Curtis's neighborhood shown from Athena's perspective? Was it believable? Did it make you respond in any way? (thoughts or feelings) Was it effective in its delivery of mood/message/setting? Did it make what comes after (Mercy) believable/possible?
I'm glad it wasn't romanticized, including the people that live in it. I think I have mentioned my oppinion on it a few times already :sweat_smile:
- What is your view on ‘Mercy’ chapters (Assault)? Were they handled appropriately? Can they be handled better? Did they deter you from reading further? Did they change your impression of the story? Were you expecting them?
I was shook. I didn't expect to see this happening for real. Also I think it was well handled.
- What is your view on ‘Memories’ chapter (Curtis)? Were they handled appropriately? Were they portrayed realistically? Were they and the characters portrayed believable? Were the scenes portrayed, haunting enough for Curtis to revolve his entire life around revenge and locking Scorcher away?
These chapters made me really, really sad. I think the only ray of light was Rue, and I think she may be the most unrealistic part of it!
Sadly the things that happen in the real world, are often much, much worse than what we see in fiction.
- There is a darkness that looms over chapters 14.4, 16.4 and 16.5. Was the mood obvious to you or too subtle? Did it affect these chapters and your desire to read them?
14.3 & 4. were def some of my favourite chapters. I love genius and smart villains, and Masato is someone I fear and respect a lot!
16.4/5. It was dirty. I can't find any other words for it. I really enjoyed the pictures and the narrative though. In a way, Curt's possessiveness makes perfect sense if you look where he comes from, and what he thinks he may lose.
The more I think about it, the more I like what you wrote there. Ahhhh, all that potential for character development, or- destruction >:)
What do you think of Avery's revelation/Athena losing her memory in Chapters 15.1 - 15.4. How was the pacing? Did it feel realistic? Did any feel forced? What do you think of Avery's backstory? Was it believable that Athena didn't realise what she was doing?
Finally there was the magic that I was always looking for in this story! :joy: jk. But it was very entertaining. I love the hints that Athena may subdue to the power that was given to her eventually.
- What do you think of the NSFW poem chapter? Was the poem hard to decipher? Did the pictures make the process tougher? Was it a cringe chapter?
I did like the poem. Now it may be a language barrier, but I couldn't really apply it much to the pictures. the summary at the end helped.
No, I didn't think it was cringy.
Did all of these scenarios make sense to you? Were they believable?
- Curtis kept in the dark about his identity
why do you even ask? No sane abuser in his right mind would tell him he's the son of the CIA boss :joy:
- Curtis having his own home
well I guess the other option would be to be some of his gang member's room mate? I guess he made enough money to be able to afford it tho.
- Curtis being able to survive despite his lifestyle at such a young age
He had a tough training, possibly with a lot of brain washing. Some people may have lived through worse.
- Curtis’s complete out of character aggression, manipulation and exploitation of Athena at Trevor’s house
If you think more about it, it actually wasn't out of character. Look at his training, his upbringing, the role models he had. He may have some natural goodness in him, something he learned from Rue, and he's able to form genuine affection. He found Athena, and she became very precious to him, now that he feels threatened to lose her, he can only react according to what he has learned, fight for her with claws and teeth. I think it that moment he is not able to see that he trespasses a boundary he never should.
In CH17 you hinted that he felt something was wrong there, but if he can truly change, only time can tell.
- Athena’s complete out of character aggression, loosened and unhinged behavior at Trevor’s house
It may have been the bigger break between the chapters when I read them, but I was confused at first. It makes more sense once you think what she has lost.
- Trevor’s fixation on Athena
One always wants what's hard to get, huh? :smirk:
- What did you think about the comic strip ch. 6.4? Did it adequately summarise Curtis's role? Were there any plot holes? Any thoughts on its delivery?
I think I have written it already in the comments. It is well done.
- What do you think of Athena and Curtis's Not-date scene at the promenade?
I think it was kinda cute. I'm not a fan of throwing food, tho XD
- What do you think of the progression of Athena and Curtis’s relationship from strangers to lovers?
- Did it flow realistically? Did any parts feel forced or too fast?
- Their romance was never intended to be ‘pure’, even if it started out that way. Did you catch it as a reader? Did you realise at any point a shift beginning to happen? Where? Did you catch yourself responding to it?
- How would you describe their romance/relationship?
I always had the feeling it came more from her side than from his.
At first she may have been just curious, and then thought herself into having a crush (idk if that makes sense, like, you keep thinking about someone more and more, until you feel like you have a crush on them), and then stubborn enough to pursue a relationship bc he was so different than anyone she knew (also, let's be honest, someone that risks their life for you will always be somehow attractive, even if it was just out of plain human decency ;) )
He on the other side, seemed very passive, and it feels he rather dated her bc she was pursuing him. Then she's cute, has courage, and is always supportive about him. What's not to like here?
The whole relationship feels more like one out of convenience and curiosity, but what exactly it is worth, will probably only be shown in S2.
So far they had almost zero time spending as a couple, and when they finally had towards the end, the real problem surfaced.
They don't understand each other.
Athena wants him to leave his world and live a normal life, but he doesn't want to (or he would have done that long time ago), and he is still longing for that always supportive, always sweet girl she once was.
I know in the last chapter they had a talk, but that is not enough. I also don't think Curtis giving up his life for Athena will work. He needs to want it by himself. And I doubt Athena understands fully what it means to have a criminal mindset (bc that's what Curtis has, he was raised like that)
- Grim's explanation of the cycle of life/death: Do you have any pressing questions? What else would you have liked to know?
Tbh I have trouble remembering it. Also, I am probably a minority, but I care very little about world lore xD I'm more interested in current happenings and character development.
- What do you think of Curtis's neighborhood shown from Athena's perspective? Was it believable? Did it make you respond in any way? (thoughts or feelings) Was it effective in its delivery of mood/message/setting? Did it make what comes after (Mercy) believable/possible?
I'm glad it wasn't romanticized, including the people that live in it. I think I have mentioned my oppinion on it a few times already :sweat_smile:
- What is your view on ‘Mercy’ chapters (Assault)? Were they handled appropriately? Can they be handled better? Did they deter you from reading further? Did they change your impression of the story? Were you expecting them?
I was shook. I didn't expect to see this happening for real. Also I think it was well handled.
- What is your view on ‘Memories’ chapter (Curtis)? Were they handled appropriately? Were they portrayed realistically? Were they and the characters portrayed believable? Were the scenes portrayed, haunting enough for Curtis to revolve his entire life around revenge and locking Scorcher away?
These chapters made me really, really sad. I think the only ray of light was Rue, and I think she may be the most unrealistic part of it!
Sadly the things that happen in the real world, are often much, much worse than what we see in fiction.
- There is a darkness that looms over chapters 14.4, 16.4 and 16.5. Was the mood obvious to you or too subtle? Did it affect these chapters and your desire to read them?
14.3 & 4. were def some of my favourite chapters. I love genius and smart villains, and Masato is someone I fear and respect a lot!
16.4/5. It was dirty. I can't find any other words for it. I really enjoyed the pictures and the narrative though. In a way, Curt's possessiveness makes perfect sense if you look where he comes from, and what he thinks he may lose.
The more I think about it, the more I like what you wrote there. Ahhhh, all that potential for character development, or- destruction >:)
What do you think of Avery's revelation/Athena losing her memory in Chapters 15.1 - 15.4. How was the pacing? Did it feel realistic? Did any feel forced? What do you think of Avery's backstory? Was it believable that Athena didn't realise what she was doing?
Finally there was the magic that I was always looking for in this story! :joy: jk. But it was very entertaining. I love the hints that Athena may subdue to the power that was given to her eventually.
- What do you think of the NSFW poem chapter? Was the poem hard to decipher? Did the pictures make the process tougher? Was it a cringe chapter?
I did like the poem. Now it may be a language barrier, but I couldn't really apply it much to the pictures. the summary at the end helped.
No, I didn't think it was cringy.
Did all of these scenarios make sense to you? Were they believable?
- Curtis kept in the dark about his identity
why do you even ask? No sane abuser in his right mind would tell him he's the son of the CIA boss :joy:
- Curtis having his own home
well I guess the other option would be to be some of his gang member's room mate? I guess he made enough money to be able to afford it tho.
- Curtis being able to survive despite his lifestyle at such a young age
He had a tough training, possibly with a lot of brain washing. Some people may have lived through worse.
- Curtis’s complete out of character aggression, manipulation and exploitation of Athena at Trevor’s house
If you think more about it, it actually wasn't out of character. Look at his training, his upbringing, the role models he had. He may have some natural goodness in him, something he learned from Rue, and he's able to form genuine affection. He found Athena, and she became very precious to him, now that he feels threatened to lose her, he can only react according to what he has learned, fight for her with claws and teeth. I think it that moment he is not able to see that he trespasses a boundary he never should.
In CH17 you hinted that he felt something was wrong there, but if he can truly change, only time can tell.
- Athena’s complete out of character aggression, loosened and unhinged behavior at Trevor’s house
It may have been the bigger break between the chapters when I read them, but I was confused at first. It makes more sense once you think what she has lost.
- Trevor’s fixation on Athena
One always wants what's hard to get, huh? :smirk:
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