I read a lot of people complain about Sims having not much to do. But new activities, skills, careers and so on are added with every new pack.New Clothing and accessories are as well, but they don't do much about how different Sims are from each other.In order to make each Sim more unique, I would like to suggest a few things. - Likes and Dislikes. Allow us to decide what the sim likes and what he or she dislikes. For Example: Haircolors, Colors in general, Food types, Radio Stations, TV channels, Movies... you get it? If you allow for 3 likes and 3 dislikes, that is already an improvement. More is of course welcome. The Sim should have emotional reactions to those things.- Zodiac signs, culture and main hand. Allow us to pick a zodiac sign for our Sims that is separate from traits and affects certain things in his life. Also, we should be able to pick a culture to have our sims behave accordingly. What should I do if I want a sim to eat with chopsticks instead of a fork and bow down instead of waving the hand? With that, I would just pick the Eastern culture. With Eastern culture, A sim would act like how it is common and polite in china and japan. There would also be Western and Middleeastern culture selectable. And I would like to decide if my Sim is a lefty, a righty or can use both hands equally. (Forgot the Therm for it)- CAS Options.Clothing and Hairstyles are well and good. Keep them coming. But also...Add Body Hair. People have hair on their arms, their legs, their backs and chests. Maybe different hights? I am aware that adding hight differences makes it difficult to animate stuff, and you would have to recreate each animation for every hight and perhaps more, but it would make Sims more diverse. It could be 3 buttons instead of a slider as a compromise. I would also like more walkstyles that are less exagurated. I am alsowaiting for a limbing walkstyle. Also, the walkstyles should affect the way a Sim stands, sits, dances and more...More Traits are a must. The Gender Patch was a good thing, even though I was a bit angry because it broke mods. I think those additions would make the sim world and the sims much more alive.

What would make the game more alive is if these Sims had a personality. Traits should matter more than they do, but they don't and compared to TS2 and TS3 this game has hardly added any new traits, skills and or activities or new careers and or aspirations. One here and there doesn't cut the mustard.

EA said that Sims are more smarter because of multitasking. But this is not a trait of smart.The AI from the Sims in Sims 4 is more chaotic than in previous Releases. Best example is when Sims want to wash dishes. They run to the sinks from the Bath instead to use the Sink in the kitchen right next to the dinning table.

"Armilus616;d-931757" wrote:Also, we should be able to pick a culture to have our sims behave accordingly. What should I do if I want a sim to eat with chopsticks instead of a fork and bow down instead of waving the hand? With that, I would just pick the Eastern culture. With Eastern culture, A sim would act like how it is common and polite in china and japan. There would also be Western and Middleeastern culture selectable. I kind of like this idea, but I kind of want it a little different.Rather than 'pick a culture', it might be better to 'pick cultural traits'Eg.Greetings: raise arm to wave raise hand in fingerwave nod head slight bowEating: Use knife and fork Place napkin on lap, use knife and fork Use knife and fingers Use chopsticksGreeting friends/family: Handshake Hug Cheek kissAnd I would like to decide if my Sim is a lefty, a righty or can use both hands equally. (Forgot the Therm for it)Ambidextrous - CAS Options.Clothing and Hairstyles are well and good. Keep them coming.I'd like them to be sorted a little better, especially the womens hair styles. They need not just the lengths sorted, but also up styles separated from the down styles. Maybe different hights? I am aware that adding hight differences makes it difficult to animate stuff, and you would have to recreate each animation for every hight and perhaps more, Therein lies the trouble with more height variety. The amount of effort that would have to go into redoing all the animations is about equivalent to a whole game pack. Do people really want height variety so much that they'd be willing to give up new gameplay content?Also, the walkstyles should affect the way a Sim stands, sits, dances and more...This is true.Speaking of dancing, there needs to be more dance styles, like dancing with a partner, dancing while facing your group of friends.Dancing with a partner could be as simple as just moving to the music, one with the arms on the shoulders of the other, the other with their arms around the waist of their partner, almost like a bad attempt at slow dancing. Or it could be a bit of bump and grind, like previous versions of the game had.

"Armilus616;d-931757" wrote:I read a lot of people complain about Sims having not much to do. But new activities, skills, careers and so on are added with every new pack.New Clothing and accessories are as well, but they don't do much about how different Sims are from each other.In order to make each Sim more unique, I would like to suggest a few things. - Likes and Dislikes. Allow us to decide what the sim likes and what he or she dislikes. For Example: Haircolors, Colors in general, Food types, Radio Stations, TV channels, Movies... you get it? If you allow for 3 likes and 3 dislikes, that is already an improvement. More is of course welcome. The Sim should have emotional reactions to those things.- Zodiac signs, culture and main hand. Allow us to pick a zodiac sign for our Sims that is separate from traits and affects certain things in his life. Also, we should be able to pick a culture to have our sims behave accordingly. What should I do if I want a sim to eat with chopsticks instead of a fork and bow down instead of waving the hand? With that, I would just pick the Eastern culture. With Eastern culture, A sim would act like how it is common and polite in china and japan. There would also be Western and Middleeastern culture selectable. And I would like to decide if my Sim is a lefty, a righty or can use both hands equally. (Forgot the Therm for it)- CAS Options.Clothing and Hairstyles are well and good. Keep them coming. But also...Add Body Hair. People have hair on their arms, their legs, their backs and chests. Maybe different hights? I am aware that adding hight differences makes it difficult to animate stuff, and you would have to recreate each animation for every hight and perhaps more, but it would make Sims more diverse. It could be 3 buttons instead of a slider as a compromise. I would also like more walkstyles that are less exagurated. I am alsowaiting for a limbing walkstyle. Also, the walkstyles should affect the way a Sim stands, sits, dances and more...More Traits are a must. The Gender Patch was a good thing, even though I was a bit angry because it broke mods. I think those additions would make the sim world and the sims much more alive. I like a lot of these ideas. I'm iffy about the 'cultural' thing, though, as I suspect it would create a lot of potential minefields for the creators. I mean, how to define cultures and would people from those cultures be offended by those associations. Also, there is no such thing as 'Western' or 'Eastern' culture - I'm British, British culture isn't the same as American culture in a lot of ways, nor is it the same as European culture. And I've lived in Japan, and Japanese culture isn't the same as Chinese culture or Korean culture. And believe me, there's some feeling in that particular equation. I think the idea of more options is good but not terming them in the framework of our world. Just having the options 'eat with chopsticks' as an option for any sim to be selected or not selected (as an example) is probably less contentious, especially since the Sims is very fluid with ethnicity and names. I still would like hijab to be added to the clothing options because if we can have diwali stuff, Iand in the past, I think, menorah? Do we still have a menorah?) not to mention a Christmas tree...I don't see why a hijab is a problem, but I think (as with woohoo and plasma) terminology has to be carefully thought out...I like the idea of right or left handed or ambidextrous :) I'm naturally ambidextrous so that would be fun :) The thing I am most on board with, though, is the likes/dislikes. Especially in terms of chemistry. I liked the old TS2 option of 'check sim out' which could also determine if a sim liked men or women (although we need a 'both' option tweaked in there as well). Also liking red hair, or blue eyes...those kinds of things. Then I agree about likes and dislikes with food, with stuff, with movies, with people's traits (other than good vs evil). I think the potential for it is there, it just needs fleshing out. Emotions are fine but it would be great to take that further. I think maybe bits of this could be solved by more options for sim traits and also aspirations and jobs as well, but more would need to be done on personalities and preferences. That could almost be a pack in its own right - the Sims Personalities...

Alternatively I Just want Favorites, and it should be linked to emotions.I'd say we should allowed to pick a maximum of 3 Favorites for each category, except color.Favorites:Color: {Color influences particle effects example if you sim does something to do with magic their particle effects would be that color}Food: {+Happiness when eating/cooking/baking favorite food, void(Happiness) +Sadness when Favorite Food is made poorly and/or hasn't eaten their favorite food in a while (5 days).}Drink: {+Happiness when drinking/mixing favorite drink, void(Happiness) +Sadness when Favorite Food is made poorly and/or hasn't drank their favorite drink in a while (5 days)}Music Genre: {Occasional bursts of +Inspiration/+Confidence, when listening/dancing to favorite genre.}TV Show/Film Genre: {On top of e.buffs Shows give (Comedy boosts playful) Sims will gain a +Focused boost watching their favorite show, and angry when a sim attempts to talk to them while watching their favorite show.Hobbies: {+Energized/+Focused/+Inspired/+Happiness when doing their favorite thing; +Sadness when they haven't done it in a while, +Anger when they mess up their favorite hobby.Example You love art... Sim will get mad if they messed up a painting, or it wan't as high quality.If is Bored, they autominously go do their favorite thing.Was hoping favorite animal would come with pets...and favorite Season/weather, with Season.Hmm as things your DetestI guess it can work sort of like Club System.I just want to be able to choose a variety of sims can love and hate.I would love to see more trait Slots and Traits3 Traits isn't enough for my simsI'd bump it to:Toddler: 2Child: 3Teens: 5Young Adults: 6Adults & Elders: 7I'd Love to see:Adventurous - Willing to try anything, go anywhere, date any Human, Alien, Vampire, Werewolf, etc at least once.Brave {Reward Trait} - (Combined with Adventurous willing to do it again... and again.)Charming CompetitiveConscious Coward {Reward Trait} DebutanteDeviantEncouragingHeadstrongHedonisticHypocriteInsecureJudgementalLoyal - (I'd expect to come in a werewolf GP) Loyal sims are always there back up their best friends.Low Metabolism - (Reward trait to counter High Metabolism, sims by default seem to have an average metabolism}ManipulativeNaïveOutspokenRapscallionWarm HeartedI feel those would change the game a lot.I'm not big on Zodiac Signs and Astrology nonsense...I can define who my sims are, I design their personality, I decide how my sim's day is going to go.Anything that may impose a threat to that, can go to the left.

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Armilus616
7 years ago
"Movotti;c-16227787" wrote:
"Armilus616;d-931757" wrote:
Also, we should be able to pick a culture to have our sims behave accordingly. What should I do if I want a sim to eat with chopsticks instead of a fork and bow down instead of waving the hand? With that, I would just pick the Eastern culture. With Eastern culture, A sim would act like how it is common and polite in china and japan. There would also be Western and Middleeastern culture selectable.

I kind of like this idea, but I kind of want it a little different.
Rather than 'pick a culture', it might be better to 'pick cultural traits'

Eg.
Greetings:

raise arm to wave
raise hand in fingerwave
nod head
slight bow

Eating:

Use knife and fork
Place napkin on lap, use knife and fork
Use knife and fingers
Use chopsticks

Greeting friends/family:

Handshake
Hug
Cheek kiss

I actually like that better than my original suggestion. Maybe add "Overall behaviour" with traits like "Overly Polite" (Constantly apologizeing for no reason at all, prefering friendly options more often, even with the mean trait, although not as often as without the mean trait, be offended when a stranger tells a joke) "Polite" (Current basegame Sim behaviour) "impolite" (be a bit less offended by mean interactions, use mischivious and funny interactions more often, be a bit confused by polite interactions) "Rude" (use mischivious and mean interactions frequently even with the friendly trait, react positively to several mean interactions and even have mean and mischivious interactions in the friendly menu)

Therefore, there would several ways to talk and socialize in a culture. Culture would come first, and traits after that. When two members of the same culture talk to each other, socializeing should work perfectly as we have it, but when someone from a rude culture talks with someone overly polite culture, the one with the rude culture is constantly confused and the one with the overly polite culture constantly offended.
(There are cultures where it is considered rude to tell jokes to people who are not close friends or family, and there are cultures where it is considered normal and even funny to insult the mother of the one you talk to, even if you first meet him. Yes, in real life. I am as confused about that as some of you probably are)
Also, some friendly interactions should be considered (and marked) as polite.

And I would like to decide if my Sim is a lefty, a righty or can use both hands equally. (Forgot the Therm for it)
Ambidextrous

Thank you.

- CAS Options.
Clothing and Hairstyles are well and good. Keep them coming.
I'd like them to be sorted a little better, especially the womens hair styles. They need not just the lengths sorted, but also up styles separated from the down styles.

Maybe different hights? I am aware that adding hight differences makes it difficult to animate stuff, and you would have to recreate each animation for every hight and perhaps more,
Therein lies the trouble with more height variety. The amount of effort that would have to go into redoing all the animations is about equivalent to a whole game pack. Do people really want height variety so much that they'd be willing to give up new gameplay content?

I don't, but I can't speak for others. It was a maybe, as you have probably seen. The Slider many people are demanding on several forums is deffinitely too much. the 3 buttons for 3 hights was a suggestion for something in between slider and nothing at all.
I wouldn't have a problem if that never makes its way to Sims 4, but maybe it gives them an Idea for Sims 5.

Also, the walkstyles should affect the way a Sim stands, sits, dances and more...
This is true.

Speaking of dancing, there needs to be more dance styles, like dancing with a partner, dancing while facing your group of friends.
Dancing with a partner could be as simple as just moving to the music, one with the arms on the shoulders of the other, the other with their arms around the waist of their partner, almost like a bad attempt at slow dancing. Or it could be a bit of bump and grind, like previous versions of the game had.

I agree.
ck213
Seasoned Scout
7 years ago
EA should bring back interests from the Sims 2.
I loved that feature and wished the at impact was amped up a little bit more.

This quote from The Sims 2 Wiki explains it:
Spoiler
Interest Basics

There are 18 interests in The Sims 2.

Animals
Crime
Culture
Entertainment
Environment
Fashion
Food
Health
Money
Paranormal
Politics
School
Sci-Fi
Sports
Toys
Travel
Weather
Work

These interests have five icons each. Each of these icons are displayed in the interests section of the simology panel. Interests are important in relationships because of the Chat interaction. If you want to make friends, this interaction will most likely make up the bulk of your efforts. Other friendly interactions may raise relationships at first but they weaken in strength after each time you do that social. When sims chat, they randomly choose an interest and display one of it's icons. High level interests are more likely to be chosen as the topic. How the sim responds depends on the gap in level of interest. A small gap in that level will give 5 daily, a medium gap will give 2, and a large gap will subtract 1 point. This is why it is easier to build a friendship with sims of similar interests.

As a strategy, you can check each sims interests in their simology panels. For visitors, you can go into their houses and check there. For NPCs you'll just have to guess, although Nightlife comes with the Ask...What are your interests? social. When you've recorded their interests, initiate a conversation. You can then control what topics they talk about by clicking on your sim and selecting Change Topic
Changing Interests

There are two ways to change interests in The Sims 2.

Magazines. Each magazine can increase your sims interest in three topics. Note that when interest in one topic is increased, your sims will lose interest in another topic. Sims cannot have maximum interest in all topics.
Sharing Interests. Sims can gain interest from other sims with the Talk…Share Interests interaction. However, the interest is random and out of your control. Like in magazines, sims will lose interest in one topic and gain interest in another.

I love that there were ways to influence what your sim's were interested in and that these interest showed up in chatting socials and influence relationships. It should be added to TS4 and give even more depth.
sassycotton
7 years ago
I want to see both mental and physical disabilities, Mental illnesses, More traits, more styles of hair, color wheel for clothes, etc and I love all your ideas as well
Madamelee
New Rookie
7 years ago
"Sassycotton;c-16253591" wrote:
I want to see both mental and physical disabilities, Mental illnesses, More traits, more styles of hair, color wheel for clothes, etc and I love all your ideas as well

Like I said elsewhere a former staff member consider it to be lobbying... (I don't know about any of the current "staff" aka EA_(name) ) I do know SimGuruDrake is fine with asking for it.
sassycotton
7 years ago
Where do I find them on here?
paradiseplanet2
7 years ago
"Sassycotton;c-16255069" wrote:
Where do I find them on here?

Well they would be the members with SimGuru before their usernames and they have the role 'Sim Guru' here on the forum.
sassycotton
7 years ago
How do I post a new question in the simguru page?
Madamelee
New Rookie
7 years ago
if you're talking about staff its StaffJessica
sassycotton
7 years ago
ok thank you

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