Murder Mystery Pack

This is a pack I have wanted forever, but kept quiet because it’s not entirely plausible and may involve styles and themes similar to other packs. But I’m seeing movie trailers lately that revisit themes of classic murder mysteries. If you’re curious, look at Knives Out and Ready or Not. Not to mention some recent(ish) remakes of classic Agatha Christie novels like Murder on the Orient Express And Crooked House (these films and trailers may not be suitable for all audiences). I would say that there is a renewed fandom of classic, spooky, treacherous fiction—and an overt love among us for the true crime genre. So why not add this into the Sims 4?

I struggled to come up with a distinct concept for this Murder Mystery pack, mostly because it potentially could be too similar to other packs. The furnishings might look like Vintage Glamour, or Vampires, plus Realm of Magic might come with some antiques too. Solving a mystery in this pack might look like Get to Work’s detective career, or the Strangerville mystery. Plus this pack would involve a dark, tragic, and potentially horrible felony against another innocent sim. But I don’t want to abandon this Murder Mystery pack idea.

So here is one possible approach: Murder Mystery Party Stuff

Live Mode: new social event type: Murder Mystery Party, to which we can wear new costumes.

CAS: trench coats (plural), tweed Miss Marple skirts, a curly Poirot mustache, a women’s hairstyle that covers one eye, Sherlock Holmes hat, vintage glasses, simpler monocle, formal military uniform, etc

Build/Buy: antique fainting couch, billiards table (because Clue), a new secret passage door, a big antique victrola/gramaphone, a regular upright piano, tripod telescope, weapon props, etc

Still, despite being gritty and tragic, simurder would be kind of awesome as part of a murderous game pack. The pack could add funerals, will readings/inheritance disputes, a coroner career and/or estate law career! Anyway...

Please discuss, if you have any further ideas I’d love to hear.

Simmingal
Hero
6 years ago
I'd love this because I really love Hercule Poirot tv series :love:

but also I think actually since Hercule Poirot takes place in 20s
that would not clash with the existing b/b and cas themes too much
(or at least I don't really have anything to use when I try to make it happen in my game :joy:)
its more gameplay clash

but it would really need the old cars though there is so much cars when it comes to poirot
or trains or vehicles in general tbh he travels so much :sweat_smile:

this is really what i missed with gtw detective career because the crimes in it just do not exercise my little grey cells enough
but I am not sure how they would handle the actual crime scenes and such with their current take on what is acceptable

so party would probably suit it better yeah maybe like fake ''murder game'' like in Dead Man's Folly ? but like its actually a game? :joy:
(unless mods take over >:) ) also there really needs to be those rich sims parties where everyone shows up super fancy and in theme
and garden parties where everyone is suspicious :love:

maybe it would come with its own very british village where everyone has deep dark secrets to uncover

also yes inheritance funerals and law career would all come very handy trying to make drama out of my sims lives
jadonbakes
New Spectator
6 years ago
Not a huge mod fan, because I know the Extreme Violence mod can get out of hand. I’ve seen videos of it where townie sims in the background are stabbing each other. I would definitely not want that to happen ever in a pack.

Definitely more into the suspicious atmosphere, dramatic interactions, and cool antiques.
Simmingal
Hero
6 years ago
"jadonbakes;c-17147631" wrote:
Not a huge mod fan, because I know the Extreme Violence mod can get out of hand. I’ve seen videos of it where townie sims in the background are stabbing each other. I would definitely not want that to happen ever in a pack.

Definitely more into the suspicious atmosphere, dramatic interactions, and cool antiques.

yeah the mods have no limit so it often goes too violent but just saying its unlikely for "murder" to be part of mystery without mods seeing how detectives too only have jobs like find out who doodled goths house or whatever

it be cool if we could at least snoop around and find out about hidden pasts of charas and they could bring back goth mystery etc too cuz this game just really needs the mystery
Call-itaLullaby
6 years ago
I LOVE this idea!! I honestly never really thought about this ever.

This would be a great stuff pack!! Ooh, I actually want this so bad now. Honestly, I just have my vampire sims like hired assassins with the kill mod. "Need someone taken care of? Hold on, call Vlad 1-800-kill." It would be so cool as a halloween special!

I agree, you can't actually add in real murder to the game.. not when it's rated E or for teens? (I thought it was E?) But I did really want a 'difficulty' slider in TS4. Because, it's way too hard to kill sims in TS4. And extreme violence mod, is just waaayyy too much. XX

As far as concept goes, yeah there's vintage glamor, and vampire pack, and some of the Get Famous stuff even.. That time period already has some CAS in it. I would be a bit afraid too to say that it should also be in the same category. Although I think that those packs combined don't offer enough of it. Either I feel that the clothes are too much to fit into the rest of the world, OR they are not enough to be apart of what I want it to be apart of. I find myself using the same ones over and over again. A lot of it is unflattering, especially for the women. Maybe more focused in a new-victorian style. Vintage Glamour is more 1920's, which is just out of the victorian era. And as you said, we don't know what Realm of Magic will give. Maybe it could also be a touch steampunk? a lot of people are into that, and fits in nicely with victorian style. It would add opportunity to add in some vintage tinker items as well.
jadonbakes
New Spectator
6 years ago
Ooh, I just had another thought!
Maybe instead of (or in addition to) throwing a Murder Mystery Party at your sim's own house, there is a generic lot that comes with this pack--an old mansion--with lots of nooks and crannies for finding clues, and secret passages, and stuff. Thunder and lightning FX machines. A cast of actors that come with the lot, like a dinner theater thing (but without food or a stage, lol)
Simmingal
Hero
6 years ago
"jadonbakes;c-17151178" wrote:
Ooh, I just had another thought!
Maybe instead of (or in addition to) throwing a Murder Mystery Party at your sim's own house, there is a generic lot that comes with this pack--an old mansion--with lots of nooks and crannies for finding clues, and secret passages, and stuff. Thunder and lightning FX machines. A cast of actors that come with the lot, like a dinner theater thing (but without food or a stage, lol)

also thought that this could be good ''hotel'' vacation pack
because I realized that Poirot always at some fancy rich ppl hotels
so they could add type of hotel (sort of like lot trait for a hotel you could assign)
where sims cheat on their spouses, things get stolen,
sims get poisoned, workers be shady and have weird dealings
the locals be shady too and you could get robbed in the streets or even attacked
everyone would have dark or not so dark past to discover through interacting with them more
and you could help new npc police to catch culprits + if u have gtw on detective career you could catch them yourself
also reintroduction of classic burglars too (and possibility they were not even robbing your sim but someone else)
NacreousSky
6 years ago
It's a cool idea, but I doubt it will ever get looked at :( They took out burglary in TS4 for.. I actually can't remember the reason but it was a dumb one. So if burglary is too "upsetting" to the game.. a murder pack is a big yikes.

I do absolutely love the idea though, I love murder mystery stuff. I didn't know if you were making this for us simmers or the dev team. Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in.
Cinderellimouse
6 years ago
I need this pack.
jadonbakes
New Spectator
6 years ago
@JosieAnglin I see what you're saying. But growing up for me, Whodunnit movies were rated PG. They were less about violence and more about scandals and snooping. Mystery is a hugely popular genre, which I guess hasn't fully been ignored by the Sims, since we have Strangerville--though that's more Sci-fi than classic mystery.

I'm not sure how to get the developer's attention without @ing them, which I doubt would work anyway.
reine-du-monde
6 years ago
I grew up watching Agatha Christie shows, Murder She Wrote, Diagnosis Murder ect. So this idea makes me so happy.

I'd love a new world added in this pack, maybe with a "murder mystery train", manor houses, and other places typical is murder mystery shows.