Sims 4 is updating their NPCs (https://simscommunity.info/2021/08/03/the-sims-4s-npcs-are-getting-visual-and-lore-updates/)This is a thread to show what they should update about the NPCs and lore in Sims 4!Caliente family This family got white-washed and looks nothing like in Sims 2. https://i.ibb.co/cTDg1mp/315-F4-F2-B-4-AFD-4212-8106-BD493-C70-EEC5.jpgThe Caliente Sisters look nothing like in Sims 2+3. They need a serious makeover. Nina & Dina went from being brown to white.Also their mother got replaced by Katrina Caliente. Their biological mother is actually called Ni-ghat Caliente. She died when Nina & Dina were children.https://i.ibb.co/jRK1dyp/5-D3-B3590-AC5-F-4-E95-9-A8-C-C66-D4-DBFE647.jpgNi-ghat Caliente should make a reappearance as a gravestone at the Caliente house lot. Goth familyAdd a graveyard to the Goth house! There has always been a graveyard at the Goth family home! Back when Sims 4 released there were no ghosts, which is why there is no graveyard with ancestors of the Goth family.https://thumbs.modthesims2.com/img/8/1/0/6/9/7/2/MTS_Sortyero29-1589138-Main.JPGFamous Goth family ancestors include:Cornelia Goth - Mortimer‘s mother - Died by fire (https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/Cornelia_Goth )Gunther Goth - Mortimer’s father - Died by fire (https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/Gunther_Goth )Frida Goth - Gunther‘s sister - Died by fire as an adult (https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/Frida_Goth )Lolita Goth - Died by Electrocution as a young adult (https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/Lolita_Goth )What is your feedback for NPC updates?

Personally, I'd rather they left them be. I sometimes play as pre-made families, and would be disappointed if their appearance/lore suddenly changed. Each to their own, no one's opinion is right or wrong, this is just how I feel. :smile:

"GirlFromIpanema;c-17949709" wrote:Personally, I'd rather they left them be. I sometimes play as pre-made families, and would be disappointed if their appearance/lore suddenly changed. Each to their own, no one's opinion is right or wrong, this is just how I feel. :smile: Are you okay with white-washing characters and completely throwing Sims lore away? Nina & Dina Caliente went from being brown to white.

"FreezerBunnyCowplant;c-17949711" wrote:"GirlFromIpanema;c-17949709" wrote:Personally, I'd rather they left them be. I sometimes play as pre-made families, and would be disappointed if their appearance/lore suddenly changed. Each to their own, no one's opinion is right or wrong, this is just how I feel. :smile: So you‘re okay with white-washing characters and completely throwing Sims lore away? Nina & Dina Caliente went from being brown to white.Please don't put words in my mouth, this isn't what I meant at all, and I apologise if it came across that way. I'd like to know more information before I form a proper opinion, I simply don't want to log into my "Goths" save (for example) and have them completely different to how I left them.

On the beauty thing in particular, I thought they said they sort of reimagined these old townies?As for my feedback, give everyone assigned hot and cold outfits so I do not have to shudder at accessory overload come summer.Also be mindful of the changes made. Some people are already attached to a few premades. I have some I have a saved edited version of, and I am a little weary at the thought of having to recombine the two. For example, I could probably get away with just re-adding the Hecking's English Bulldog and son, but I have added skills and meticulous outfit edits to Vlad. He would be a nightmare to redo to incorporate the changes/improvements. Otherwise, I am looking forward to the lore improvements.

"Calico45;c-17949718" wrote:Also be mindful of the changes made. Some people are already attached to a few premades. I think this was the point I was trying to make. I'm sorry if it didn't come across well. :smile: I happy for changes if it makes people happy, but it shouldn't leave others disappointed in the process.

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ShopGirl98
New Spectator
4 years ago
Personally, I'd rather they left them be. I sometimes play as pre-made families, and would be disappointed if their appearance/lore suddenly changed. Each to their own, no one's opinion is right or wrong, this is just how I feel. :smile:
Zenionith
4 years ago
"GirlFromIpanema;c-17949709" wrote:
Personally, I'd rather they left them be. I sometimes play as pre-made families, and would be disappointed if their appearance/lore suddenly changed. Each to their own, no one's opinion is right or wrong, this is just how I feel. :smile:

Are you okay with white-washing characters and completely throwing Sims lore away?
Nina & Dina Caliente went from being brown to white.
ShopGirl98
New Spectator
4 years ago
"FreezerBunnyCowplant;c-17949711" wrote:
"GirlFromIpanema;c-17949709" wrote:
Personally, I'd rather they left them be. I sometimes play as pre-made families, and would be disappointed if their appearance/lore suddenly changed. Each to their own, no one's opinion is right or wrong, this is just how I feel. :smile:

So you‘re okay with white-washing characters and completely throwing Sims lore away?
Nina & Dina Caliente went from being brown to white.

Please don't put words in my mouth, this isn't what I meant at all, and I apologise if it came across that way.
I'd like to know more information before I form a proper opinion, I simply don't want to log into my "Goths" save (for example) and have them completely different to how I left them.
Bluebell23456
4 years ago
On the beauty thing in particular, I thought they said they sort of reimagined these old townies?

As for my feedback, give everyone assigned hot and cold outfits so I do not have to shudder at accessory overload come summer.

Also be mindful of the changes made. Some people are already attached to a few premades. I have some I have a saved edited version of, and I am a little weary at the thought of having to recombine the two. For example, I could probably get away with just re-adding the Hecking's English Bulldog and son, but I have added skills and meticulous outfit edits to Vlad. He would be a nightmare to redo to incorporate the changes/improvements. Otherwise, I am looking forward to the lore improvements.
ShopGirl98
New Spectator
4 years ago
"Calico45;c-17949718" wrote:

Also be mindful of the changes made. Some people are already attached to a few premades.

I think this was the point I was trying to make. I'm sorry if it didn't come across well. :smile:
I happy for changes if it makes people happy, but it shouldn't leave others disappointed in the process.
83bienchen
Seasoned Novice
4 years ago
I really hope adding proper winterwear to the pre-Season premades is part of this. Otherwise, I'm not really interested in townie lore and makeovers. They can add lore and personality to premades for upcoming packs - as we didn't already get used to them.
I already wasn't too fond of changing some of the premade hairs to an extend where it completely changed their appearance (I'm looking at you, Bob Pancakes).
Bluebell23456
4 years ago
"FreezerBunnyCowplant;c-17949711" wrote:
"GirlFromIpanema;c-17949709" wrote:
Personally, I'd rather they left them be. I sometimes play as pre-made families, and would be disappointed if their appearance/lore suddenly changed. Each to their own, no one's opinion is right or wrong, this is just how I feel. :smile:

So you‘re okay with white-washing characters and completely throwing Sims lore away?
Nina & Dina Caliente went from being brown to white.

As much as I loved the old games, not everyone has played them and thusly care about some sort of old canon they do not even know. That is perfectly fine.

From what I remember, the Sims team themselves said they reimagined them for 4. Think alternate universe. Awful canon, but that was just one of the many things wrong with 4 from launch.

So please do not jump down someone's throat because they happened to like the characters they got to know in 4. They have been around for 7 years now.
VWoodsong
Seasoned Observer
4 years ago
I was never interested in the first two games, thus never played them. So obviously I'm not going to care about any sims or lore from those. I played Sims 3 for a few weeks but it never caught enough of my interest to continue, so again, don't care. And in Sims 4, I've seen the same NPCs way too many times already, and I never cared a thing about their stories in the first place because I prefer to make my own. Soooo. Any so-called improvements done for the pre-mades are completely wasted on me. There are other things on which they could use that time -- things that could benefit all players.
logionX
Seasoned Hotshot
4 years ago
I don't think they will redo the characters that much, I think the sims4 will still be an alternate universe.

Here is what I'm hoping for though.

Updated Hot and Cold weather outfits.
Updated Likes/Dislikes. Make it so Tina Tinker likes handiness for example.
Added Sentiments for their backstories. Maybe they should add more backstories so they are a bit more interesting.
Correct relationships. Johny Zest should be related to the Landgraabs for example and he should probably not be on good terms with them.
kaiwryplays
4 years ago
Isn't there some connection with the goths and crumplebottoms? Maybe they will add that too.