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Nian223
8 years ago

Official Height Slider + Preteens (Combined ideas)

The Sims 4 should have height sliders for all age groups in CAS. Like gender preferences, height sliders bring more diversity. All Sims should not be the same height. Everyone is either short, average, or tall. People in real life have varying heights. It is one of the things that makes us unique. People come in different shapes and sizes. I want official height sliders from Maxis and not only modders.

Before I continue on with my ideas and concepts, I’d like to address an issue. Height sliders can interfere with animation. Yes, I know. Some of the animations look a bit off but the height slider will come with limitations. Sims aren’t going to be extremely short or extremely tall, just slightly tall or short between the average. Besides, the Sims 4 team are professional game developers. They figure out on how to adjust and fix animations. Not all of it have to be tuned, maybe mostly the kissing interactions but that’s all.

Now, moving on with my ideas. All age groups (excluding babies) will get height sliders. These height sliders come in limitation to prevent serious inference with animations. Sims get real heights in centimeters. I know games that let people customize their character’s height in centimeters (Second Life and Mabinogi)

Default height for the life stages (make it official plz!!!):

Toddler: 92cm (3 feet)
Child: 122cm (4 feet)
Preteen (if we ever get them): 153cm (5 feet)
Teen-Elder: 183cm (6 feet)

Selectable heights:

Toddler: 84-97cm (2’9”-3’2”)
Child: 115-128cm (3’9”-4’2”)
Preteen: 148-161cm (4’10”-5’3”)
Teen-Elder: 178-189cm (5’10”-6’2”)

Height is genetic. The height slider will kind of fix teen height.
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I guess you're wondering, what's the point of preteens when we have height sliders for teens? Hold your horses. I understand, but even without preteens and with height, the child-teen jump would still be odd. I don't want my small child growing into a mature teen. I'm not going to go too in depth with preteens but I'm not going to lack any detail.

Preteens

12-14 years old (Preteens should be able to portray early teens)

A substitute for short teens

Default height is 153cm (5'0"), medium in stature between child and teen

CAS not limited: Gender options (feminine/masculine and using urinal are only available), walking styles, body sculpting, wacky hair colors, two traits, two voices, bras, muscle slider, pre-set bodies, and little facial hair (not too much XD). Preteens have their own unique traits and aspirations like toddlers.

Appearance: Besides height, preteens are a mixture of children and teens. Their face isn't as mature as teen and they retain a slight childlike face. Preteens' bodies are different from children but its less developed than teens. Their body frame are smaller and petite. Preteen girls don't have fully developed breasts. Its either flat, tiny, or small. Weight could increase breast size a bit bigger. Girls don't have much curve compared to older female Sims. Boys, on the other hand, its all about voices. Boys' voices aren't deep like older male Sims. Their voice may sound prepubescent (high pitched or low pitched prepubescent voices).

Interactions: Preteens can almost do what older Sims do except for woohoo and mature romance. Romance for preteens is more like puppy love or cheesy love XD. They can flirt, embrace, and kiss but not like adults. Preteens can care for older children, cook and prepare meals, fix or tinker broken or not broken, and yeah. Yes, they can start their own club and dance in a group at da club! They can also workout to lose weight or gain muscle, go rockclimbing.

Schooling: They go to middle school, not elementary school. That's for children.

PLEASE CONSIDER THIS IDEA AND MAKE MY DREAM COME TRUE!

Make your dreams come true! Don't let your dreams be dreams.
-Shia LaBeouf

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  • Emo-Flowers's avatar
    Emo-Flowers
    8 years ago
    A slider is very unlikely. If anything, presets would be more doable. A short/average/tall high preset for each lifestage.

    You say,
    "BuzzBuzz;d-925730" wrote:
    Before I continue on with my ideas and concepts, I’d like to address an issue. Height sliders can interfere with animation. Yes, I know. Some of the animations look a bit off but the height slider will come with limitations. Sims aren’t going to be extremely short or extremely tall, just slightly tall or short between the average. Besides, the Sims 4 team are professional game developers. They figure out on how to adjust and fix animations. Not all of it have to be tuned, maybe mostly the kissing interactions but that’s all.

    but I don't think you mean it. No one wants to see unfinished or unpolished paid content - and not completely tuning every single animation is unfinished content.

    With a slider, an animator will have to go every few increments of the slider and tune the animation for little things: picking a book off of the shelf, washing the dishes, typing on the computer, etc. And those add up to a lot of animating hours. Presets would still have those challenges, but it would be much more doable within both budget and time.

    (Also, I do agree: having the word "official" in the title is a little misleading. :sweat_smile: If you're able to, I would change it to "ideas for an official height slider" or something similar.)
  • Baetiri's avatar
    Baetiri
    8 years ago
    If a height slider was applied, I don't think presets of heights should be implemented. Keep them as they are as a base and then let the player decide how tall or short they want their Sims because many adults, including myself, are no where near 6ft tall. :)

    But like @jmattgaming mentioned, the animations and interactions with other Sims and Objects would have to be considered. There's quite a bit of variety of scaling to consider with animations so that would be a large task. In no way am I putting limitations on the devs or the game, just stating that it would probably need some coding overhaul.
  • PinkPassion27's avatar
    PinkPassion27
    8 years ago
    "gummybear0724;c-16069934" wrote:
    Minimum 5'10" for teen-elder? My mom is 5'2"!


    This was somewhat similar to my reaction :lol: . I'm 5'2 as well, my mom is 5'3. Even in high school in my class the tallest girl was 5'7. I can't speak for other parts of the world, but in the US the average height for adult women are about 5'4-5'5. As someone said above, "5'10-62" sound more like males, even though I do know boys who are also shorter.

    I'd suggest perhaps 5'3- 6'2 but that's just a little bit of critiquing. But that's just me. Either way I do agree and pray that hopefully they really really consider a height selector.
  • dg51829's avatar
    dg51829
    8 years ago
    There are also people who are going to want to be abnormally short sims. I would love a height slider for this purpose. If I want a super tall sim or super short it would be nice to add that to the game. Maybe even interactions to kids/teens to tease other kids for being 'too tall' or 'too short'. Sims kids are way too angelic at times and this is something I think would add to story of family legacies like a parent who was bullied as kid finding out their kid is bulling another children. There is so much that could be added with height as interactions. Objects for kids that let them measure their height. It's not just a slider though they would have to add in genetics factors into the game as well so children would end up being really odd height wise from their parents unless it's a throwback gene, which I've seen happen on the sims before.
  • MichaelUKingdon's avatar
    MichaelUKingdon
    8 years ago
    "BuzzBuzz;c-16056369" wrote:
    "marcel21;c-16056028" wrote:
    How do newborns get sliders when they are not even a proper lifestage?


    Oh, I dunno XD


    "BuzzBuzz;c-16056367" wrote:
    "buzz_infamous;c-16056072" wrote:
    178-189cm is very tall for teen to elder. I would say those could be suitable for a male irl. And i would be careful with 'official' in the title, this can be very misleading.


    I didn't mean to make my title misleading. Sims seem tall in my opinion. I'd figure that would be their heights.


    I would change the title. It's not official but a modification.
  • SerraNolwen's avatar
    SerraNolwen
    Seasoned Ace
    8 years ago
    I don't think people realize how much work it would take to make height sliders, in terms of animations. Too short, and a Sims hands would go straight through countertops when cooking, for example. More importantly, every animation that requires physical contact between sims would need to be redone in a lot of variations. It's not minimal anymore if you have to account for contact between the shortest possible sim and tallest possible sim. So it's changes to not only kissing animations, but hugging, taking selfies, taking care of toddlers, touching a pregnant woman's belly, vampires drinking, etc. I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you. Maybe ask for it to be part of sims 5 base game, but even then it's still a lot of work.

    As for preteens... I do kind of like the idea, but I fail to understand exactly what would be different about them, other than appearance. I feel like teens could simply be shorter and less adult like and it would pretty much work. They can already do everything you just said preteens do, and not much more. As for school, not every country has a school system with three different schools. No matter what they do, it's going to seem weird to some people.
  • SEREFRAS's avatar
    SEREFRAS
    Legend
    6 years ago
    EA MAXIS should make slider heights for children, teens & Adults.

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