I would like to start a new thread, where we can ask our questions to builders who are a little more experienced and would know the answer, if they could kindly share. I'll start:I made restaurants with bars, but bartenders do not automatically fill my restaurant builds, where I have found and played many off the gallery which do auto-fill. How do you get staff also like pianist and entertainers to auto fill without having to shell out money as a visitors for them.Would also help me if there was a way to autofill cater, like in a motel situation, if there is any at all. It would be an excellent update. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53373188624_63bb14b60b_k.jpgScreenshot 2023-12-03 at 9.02.13 AM by leucosia x, on Flickrexample of a bartender on site in a restaurant.

"LeucosiaX;d-1011971" wrote:How do you get staff also like pianist and entertainers to auto fill without having to shell out money as a visitors for them.Would also help me if there was a way to autofill cater, like in a motel situation, if there is any at all. It would be an excellent update. If you can use mods, then have a look at LittleMsSam's Auto Employees | Custom Lot Trait mod "This Lot Traits spawns NPC if certain Objects are places on the Lot. Just one NPC of each kind gets spawned even if you have more than one Object of the same kind on the Lot" See-> https://www.curseforge.com/sims4/mods/auto-employees-custom-lot-trait

For motel with catering I think it should be possible to achieve with the university or highschool cafeteria and the community recreation center or community space lot types.Pianists and entertainers don't spawn automatically on restaurant lots, but they do on lounge lot type. You could set-up your restaurant like usual, include a bar and everything else required also for lounge and when you want an entertainer without paying for them you could play it as a lounge. You can order quite a lot of dishes from the bar too. Not sure why your restaurant doesn't spawn a bartender, could be a mod conflict if you play with CC and mods.

Thank you @crocobaura - I will have to do a test play to find the mod. CC would be impossible. I have 10'of thousands.@Caerfinon Oh how I loved that mod- When I used it in the past, lots were lit and bustling. After cottage living update, Little Miss Sam's mods don't work for me, in fact cause more issues, like endless lag and not fuctional game play. Her discord said to remove certain file and I did, with no luck.

"LeucosiaX;c-18332346" wrote:Little Miss Sam's mods don't work for me, in fact cause more issuesThat's a shame. I use a lot of those mods but haven't run into similar issues. Hope you can find another workaround for your game.

Bars: Try building without moveobjects on. Use a non CC bar. Only one bar will have a bartender on the lot if you have multiples placed. This will help troubleshoot the issue since you mentioned it works fine with Gallery builds.As for LittleMsSam mods, their script mods require XML Injector Mod to work. Make sure you have that along side their script mods.Spoiler (Highlight to read)LittleMsSam March 2023:I optimized a ton of Mods, to reduce number of scripts, and improve loading times. These Mods now require the XML Injector Mod to work. Make sure to download the current XML Injector on https://scumbumbomods.com/xml-injector. Some Mods still have unique Scripts, but most Mods are now Package only. It is very important that you delete old Mods Files instead of replacing them!LittleMsSam March 2023:I optimized a ton of Mods, to reduce number of scripts, and improve loading times. These Mods now require the XML Injector Mod to work. Make sure to download the current XML Injector on https://scumbumbomods.com/xml-injector. Some Mods still have unique Scripts, but most Mods are now Package only. It is very important that you delete old Mods Files instead of replacing them!Keep your Mods folder up to date. If it's a mess then you may need to consider organizing it. Outdated mods will become a serious issue at some point and it helps to know where everything is.Spoiler (Highlight to read)https://youtu.be/rQor1fw02og?si=tK6YF27j5eNADVPJhttps://youtu.be/rQor1fw02og?si=tK6YF27j5eNADVPJ

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Caerfinon
Seasoned Veteran
10 months ago
"LeucosiaX;d-1011971" wrote:
How do you get staff also like pianist and entertainers to auto fill without having to shell out money as a visitors for them.

Would also help me if there was a way to autofill cater, like in a motel situation, if there is any at all. It would be an excellent update.

If you can use mods, then have a look at LittleMsSam's Auto Employees | Custom Lot Trait mod

"This Lot Traits spawns NPC if certain Objects are places on the Lot. Just one NPC of each kind gets spawned even if you have more than one Object of the same kind on the Lot"

See-> https://www.curseforge.com/sims4/mods/auto-employees-custom-lot-trait
crocobaura
Seasoned Ace
10 months ago
For motel with catering I think it should be possible to achieve with the university or highschool cafeteria and the community recreation center or community space lot types.
Pianists and entertainers don't spawn automatically on restaurant lots, but they do on lounge lot type. You could set-up your restaurant like usual, include a bar and everything else required also for lounge and when you want an entertainer without paying for them you could play it as a lounge. You can order quite a lot of dishes from the bar too. Not sure why your restaurant doesn't spawn a bartender, could be a mod conflict if you play with CC and mods.
leucosiax
Seasoned Hotshot
10 months ago
Thank you @crocobaura - I will have to do a test play to find the mod. CC would be impossible. I have 10'of thousands.

@�Caerfinon Oh how I loved that mod- When I used it in the past, lots were lit and bustling. After cottage living update, Little Miss Sam's mods don't work for me, in fact cause more issues, like endless lag and not fuctional game play. Her discord said to remove certain file and I did, with no luck.
Caerfinon
Seasoned Veteran
10 months ago
"LeucosiaX;c-18332346" wrote:
Little Miss Sam's mods don't work for me, in fact cause more issues

That's a shame. I use a lot of those mods but haven't run into similar issues. Hope you can find another workaround for your game.
SimplyJen
New Spectator
10 months ago
Bars: Try building without moveobjects on. Use a non CC bar. Only one bar will have a bartender on the lot if you have multiples placed. This will help troubleshoot the issue since you mentioned it works fine with Gallery builds.

As for LittleMsSam mods, their script mods require XML Injector Mod to work. Make sure you have that along side their script mods.
Spoiler
LittleMsSam March 2023:
I optimized a ton of Mods, to reduce number of scripts, and improve loading times. These Mods now require the XML Injector Mod to work. Make sure to download the current XML Injector on https://scumbumbomods.com/xml-injector. Some Mods still have unique Scripts, but most Mods are now Package only. It is very important that you delete old Mods Files instead of replacing them!

Keep your Mods folder up to date. If it's a mess then you may need to consider organizing it. Outdated mods will become a serious issue at some point and it helps to know where everything is.
Spoiler
https://youtu.be/rQor1fw02og?si=tK6YF27j5eNADVPJ
leucosiax
Seasoned Hotshot
10 months ago
@SimplyJen thanks for the advice. I will definitely try that.

I have my few gameplay mods organized and I update them regularly. My cc folder is out of hand because it is just so much.

I have the most up to date XML Injector Mod. I think there was another post where it was local thumb and another one but I never remember names for technical things too well. I did it but I'm not sure if I did it correctly or what but I would love to have her mods back.
NateWhiplash
Rising Vanguard
10 months ago
I know this might sound obvious, but are you choosing the right venue type for your build?

If so, are you placing the objects in the room properly (bar, restaurant host/server stations) so that sims can actually access them?

I've never not been given bartenders, restaurant staff, etc, it's always been automatic....that's why I'm asking about your build, something seems off
leucosiax
Seasoned Hotshot
10 months ago
There is access to the bar because Sometimes I tried getting family members to act as bartenders. @Nate_Whiplash. No simmers go to the bar even, so it's not registering like other's builds. I Dine Out is all over buggy, and only recently with Carl's reloaded got it working better than it has been. There is access to the bar because Sometimes I tried getting family members to act as bartenders.
leucosiax
Seasoned Hotshot
10 months ago
"Nate_Whiplash1;c-18332432" wrote:
And you have the venue type set to bar? If it's something else (like residential), no bartenders or customers will show up

staffing bars automatically in a resturant was the question for today. @Nate_Whiplash1
NateWhiplash
Rising Vanguard
10 months ago
I understand that. But there are only 2 things that I know of that will prevent automatic staffing of any venue you build; 1) wrong build type 2) a damaged save.

I've been playing for over 3 years now, and there has never been a time (not even once) where the game didn't give me the necessary staff to run the venue. I suppose if you're running mods that could have an effect....I only run one mod, and it's not a common one, so I'm not sure if those are having an effect