SIMS 4 UNIVERSITY ?!?!

"whimreaper;c-16821036" wrote:
I actually don't really want a university pack, which I know is an unpopular opinion. Maybe it's because I'm a student, but I found University in Sims 3 to be extremely stressful. Not only does your sim have to take care of their needs constantly, but they have to study every day of the week, go to classes, and pass exams in a very condensed period of time.

I found it to be manageable, so long as my sims didn't attend a party the night before exams...

In addition, you are quite literally stuck in the University world until you finish/fail a degree, which drove me insane.

That was irritating. IRL here, most people go home at the end of the day. Commuting is the norm.

If they do release this pack, I would probably only buy it if they made the university a new world you can travel back and forth from at will (maybe have a couple dorms, but the option to live at home and commute).

This is what I really want too.
Uni needs to be treated more like GTW. Sims shouldn't be forced to live there to attend. IRL there are plenty of parents attending uni, they don't hire a baby sitter for the semester so they can live on campus. They live at home, and commute to uni for their classes.

I would also hope that they de-condense the school term and make it so the maintenance and studying isn't more than that for a job. That way you can explore campus and university life without feeling your sim is always behind in term work. I also think the payoff for going to university should be larger, starting your sim at level 2 of careers they didn't study for and maybe level 4 for their subject of choice.

Enter jobs at level 4 if you do 3 years of uni, or level 6 if you do 4 years.
Yes, the work load needs to be more manageable, either that, or they need to fix the time issues. It takes far too long to prepare food and eat it. Sims are in the shower for far too long, walking from one end of a lot to the other often takes too long. :/

Overall, I'm not completely opposed to this pack, but I'm not anticipating it and I think that several improvements from sims 3 are needed to make it worthwhile for me personally.

I really want an education pack, but it needs to be done differently to previous versions. It needs to be less US centric by having more player controlled options.

Probably not going to be a popular opinion, but I’d like to see a community college sort of thing be an option. Something that’s just studying at home and going to rabbithole classes. A regular university would be cool too, but it’d be nice if sims didn’t have to drop everything to continue their education.

Also, I’ve seen people mention that they want pre-existing careers like doctor to require a degree. I would hate that because sometimes I just want to play a career with a fresh sim, and unless I could easily say “oh yeah, Karen already has a degree, she earned it during her imaginary youth.” it would be really frustrating.

"M_Valentine22;c-16821522" wrote:

"QueenMercy;c-16821127" wrote:
Probably not going to be a popular opinion, but I’d like to see a community college sort of thing be an option. Something that’s just studying at home and going to rabbithole classes. A regular university would be cool too, but it’d be nice if sims didn’t have to drop everything to continue their education.

Also, I’ve seen people mention that they want pre-existing careers like doctor to require a degree. I would hate that because sometimes I just want to play a career with a fresh sim, and unless I could easily say “oh yeah, Karen already has a degree, she earned it during her imaginary youth.” it would be really frustrating.

idk why but I like to put my sims in the college career and get their degree before having a real job

I just don’t want to be forced to do it.

"QueenMercy;c-16821127" wrote:

Also, I’ve seen people mention that they want pre-existing careers like doctor to require a degree. I would hate that because sometimes I just want to play a career with a fresh sim, and unless I could easily say “oh yeah, Karen already has a degree, she earned it during her imaginary youth.” it would be really frustrating.

It would make sense to have a toggle for a newly created adult sim to already have completed uni.

It would also be nice if there was an online option for adult sims to up skill via an internet uni type thing, to skip ahead in their career if they didn't attend regular uni. It would be especially handy if you decided to have your sim have a change of careers, and otherwise they'd have to start at the bottom. Have them do an online course relating to their desired new career, so that they can enter a few levels higher than they would otherwise have done.

"whimreaper;c-16821036" wrote:
I actually don't really want a university pack, which I know is an unpopular opinion. Maybe it's because I'm a student, but I found University in Sims 3 to be extremely stressful. Not only does your sim have to take care of their needs constantly, but they have to study every day of the week, go to classes, and pass exams in a very condensed period of time. In addition, you are quite literally stuck in the University world until you finish/fail a degree, which drove me insane. Besides feeling cut off from the rest of the game, sims you meet there do not come back with your sim when they return home.

Not in The Sims 3.
You went for two semesters and then your sims came home.
And it was up to you to decide when they go back for the next 2 semesters.
I never saw it as being cut off from the rest of the game, it was more of a change of pace from normal game play.

It was the Sims 2 that had you go through the entire time at University until they graduated. I would have to take breaks from University and play the parents in order to avoid Uni burnout. It was nice to invite their children home to sleep over.

There are so many things in the game to help you with managing needs, keeping your grades up, that it shouldn't be stressful.
I really enjoyed it.

"QueenMercy;c-16824312" wrote:

"Karon;c-16824302" wrote:

"QueenMercy;c-16822367" wrote:

"M_Valentine22;c-16821522" wrote:

"QueenMercy;c-16821127" wrote:
Probably not going to be a popular opinion, but I’d like to see a community college sort of thing be an option. Something that’s just studying at home and going to rabbithole classes. A regular university would be cool too, but it’d be nice if sims didn’t have to drop everything to continue their education.

Also, I’ve seen people mention that they want pre-existing careers like doctor to require a degree. I would hate that because sometimes I just want to play a career with a fresh sim, and unless I could easily say “oh yeah, Karen already has a degree, she earned it during her imaginary youth.” it would be really frustrating.

idk why but I like to put my sims in the college career and get their degree before having a real job

I just don’t want to be forced to do it.

We have never been forced... The university would only get our sims higher in the start of a career.

I’ve seen some people mention that we should, though, especially in regards to careers like doctor. I don’t care if my sim starts at the bottom of a career as usual.

It should be optional.

There should be an option to make it so scientists and doctors, and detectives, and vets, all have to have completed uni. But being an option, it's only optional. Each player should be able to customise their game to suit their play style.

"Movotti;c-16824367" wrote:

"QueenMercy;c-16824312" wrote:

"Karon;c-16824302" wrote:

"QueenMercy;c-16822367" wrote:

"M_Valentine22;c-16821522" wrote:

"QueenMercy;c-16821127" wrote:
Probably not going to be a popular opinion, but I’d like to see a community college sort of thing be an option. Something that’s just studying at home and going to rabbithole classes. A regular university would be cool too, but it’d be nice if sims didn’t have to drop everything to continue their education.

Also, I’ve seen people mention that they want pre-existing careers like doctor to require a degree. I would hate that because sometimes I just want to play a career with a fresh sim, and unless I could easily say “oh yeah, Karen already has a degree, she earned it during her imaginary youth.” it would be really frustrating.

idk why but I like to put my sims in the college career and get their degree before having a real job

I just don’t want to be forced to do it.

We have never been forced... The university would only get our sims higher in the start of a career.

I’ve seen some people mention that we should, though, especially in regards to careers like doctor. I don’t care if my sim starts at the bottom of a career as usual.

It should be optional.

There should be an option to make it so scientists and doctors, and detectives, and vets, all have to have completed uni. But being an option, it's only optional. Each player should be able to customise their game to suit their play style.

That makes no sense.

Uni would just allow you to have an advance in the level of the career. Uni is optional just like in real life. However, in real life, you can't be a doctor if you aren't licensed and that you can only get through university.

Vet is based on a skill there's no actual career levels so it wouldn't even apply.

"Sigzy05;c-16826661" wrote:

"Movotti;c-16824367" wrote:

"QueenMercy;c-16824312" wrote:

"Karon;c-16824302" wrote:

"QueenMercy;c-16822367" wrote:

"M_Valentine22;c-16821522" wrote:

"QueenMercy;c-16821127" wrote:
Probably not going to be a popular opinion, but I’d like to see a community college sort of thing be an option. Something that’s just studying at home and going to rabbithole classes. A regular university would be cool too, but it’d be nice if sims didn’t have to drop everything to continue their education.

Also, I’ve seen people mention that they want pre-existing careers like doctor to require a degree. I would hate that because sometimes I just want to play a career with a fresh sim, and unless I could easily say “oh yeah, Karen already has a degree, she earned it during her imaginary youth.” it would be really frustrating.

idk why but I like to put my sims in the college career and get their degree before having a real job

I just don’t want to be forced to do it.

We have never been forced... The university would only get our sims higher in the start of a career.

I’ve seen some people mention that we should, though, especially in regards to careers like doctor. I don’t care if my sim starts at the bottom of a career as usual.

It should be optional.

There should be an option to make it so scientists and doctors, and detectives, and vets, all have to have completed uni. But being an option, it's only optional. Each player should be able to customise their game to suit their play style.

That makes no sense.

Uni would just allow you to have an advance in the level of the career. Uni is optional just like in real life. However, in real life, you can't be a doctor if you aren't licensed and that you can only get through university.

Vet is based on a skill there's no actual career levels so it wouldn't even apply.

So what. This is a game, and if somebody else wants to play by those restrictions, fine. I don’t really care though, and I would prefer not having other people’s play styles forced on me. University was fun because it was something I could do if I wanted to, but making it necessary would turn it into a massive chore.

If playable schools are added to the game, I hope it's focused on Grade school - University. I would love to be able to join my sims at school, no matter their age.

"Karon;c-16824289" wrote:
Seeing how people reacted to The Sims 4 expansion packs so far, a University Pack is only going to be praised if they add all the exact same things we had in Sims 2 and 3 university packs... If there is something out, most simmers are going to be complaining. I would like if they really did that without being forced, but its feels like the devs are not sure how they should recreate packs we had before. Get Famous is a good example, its an improved version of Superstar when in Sims 3 everyone was expecting that and they released Showtime that was totally different. The only complains i have been seeing were the size of the world (which i agree) and the lack of a music career (which i don't agree).
I noticed that the devs like to try new things for new packs since Sims 1, but what they never learned is that we don't want that when it means we are not going to get what we had before, or an improved version of what we had before. Seasons lacks summer stuff, when Sims 3/2 didnt, but nobody was complaining because we had Island Paradise in SIms 3, which in SIms 4 should include all Island Paradise aspects + all things we are missing from the summer in Seasons, but... Then they have used that empty space in Seasons to fill with the Calendar and everything that comes with it. But, look at City Living... I really hope that this pack was not meant to be Sims 4 version of Apartment Life. I accept that as more of a urban life and style expansion pack than and apartment life expansion pack, and i really hope to see things we had in apartment life/late night back to the game, otherwise i will be really disappointed.

Also, there is one thing i really need in a University pack, and that is more than one university for us to choose. In Sims 3 i got easily tired of the uni gameplay after being at the same place 100 times with 100 different sims, while in SIms 2 i could always choose between 3 different universities and never got bored of the uni gameplay. But, all the Del Smoll Valley drama got me really afraid of no having that in my game.

"CK213;c-16820335" wrote:
I really liked TS3 University Life, but I was disappointed that there was no fraternity/sorority/ secret society game play.

Thats what i was talking about... They shouldnt cut gameplay aspects that we are used to and like to play with. "Only expand upon something... never removing something" should be their anthem.
The lack of Sororities, Fraternities and Secret Society was also a big disappointment for me, cuz those aspects are deeply tied to the University life and if they didnt add that to the uni EP, i knew i wasnt going to be getting that in another EP.
The lack of horses in C&D... I was not so worried about that, cuz i knew that a massive amount of simmers were asking for a Farming EP, and this lack of said content could be included in this pack. But the pet houses? 3D pet-bed instead of rugs? Small pets? i was plum...
The small pets problem seemed to be getting a resolution when they were going to release MFP SP, but they just turned that into something impossible to be remade as the made the pack tied to C&Ds. They had no need to add things for the felines and dogs to make more money out of it, and what about the split furniture set?
Please, devs, i love oyu guys. I know that some paths are unknow in this process of creating stuff for us, but tis because you guys are not open to talk to use, to hear us... You guys are just pretending to be hearing, but... Look at us... asking for a Farming EP since Sims 2...

See my problem with Sims 2 was we were stuck there until we finished those four years I do not I repeat I DO NOT WANT TO BE STUCK. That was the only thing I hated about the Sims 2 Uni. That you couldn't leave and come back later on. Also it didn't feel like an actual uni. Since only YA went there I want YA-Elders to go to a uni. Sorority and Fraternity yes I would like the secret society those society was cool to get into but once you were in the "secret" place it was like...this is it? This was the craze I remember being not impressed at all. The 3 different was cool though but do I think we will get it in the Sims 4? No because of the world's we already have.